Is it wrong to call yourself Dr First_Name Last_Name when you have a Professional Doctorate such as DTech or DBA and not a PhD or MBBS?
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3Your country? Where I live, you can call officially yourself Dr only if the title you obtained is exactly Dr.– user111388Commented May 29, 2020 at 6:39
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1And also, called by whom? Your friends? Your parents? Official documents? Pleaseclarify the question.– user111388Commented May 29, 2020 at 6:42
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3Why do you call my answer nonsense? Indeed, in my country, there is a Dr. title and only if you recieved this title, you can call yourself Dr. in official documents. It might be different in your country but then you might want to state it.– user111388Commented May 29, 2020 at 7:53
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1Please note that this is NOT just an Australian question, but in general from different countries. For example, one can obtain a DTech from the UK.– Hanz SchmidtCommented May 29, 2020 at 9:00
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1My contention is that if someone obtains a DTech or a DBA, regardless of where they obtain it in the world, then they should not use the Dr. designation. There are already many others, such as BAppSci (Chiropractor), BAppSci (Osteopathy) that call themselves Dr. I think as there are so many degrees that allow one to be called Dr, that "Dr" will become meaningless.– Hanz SchmidtCommented May 29, 2020 at 9:11
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This is highly dependant on legislation (of the country where you are when you are calling yourself). In germany (AFAIK, one of the more picky legislations wrt what you can call yourself):
Let's assume you move to Germany with a proper DTech from South Africa, Australia, UK or Sweden. Proper meaning: scientific thesis, degree from a university (or similar recognied highest level institution), honorary degrees have separate rules, bought degrees cannot be used in Germany.
For South Africa, the most general rules apply: you are
Firstname Lastname, DTech (University of ...)
* you can also add a translation:(Doktor der Technologie)
.
If the country doesn't use the latin alphabet, you can transliterate. And long form or usual abbreviation are both fine.* Whether you put the degree before or after the name doesn't matter.
For Australia, there is a treaty on equivalency of degrees and in consequence (legal text in German) you are
Dr. Firstname Lastname
. Not Dr.-Ing., though.Since Sweden is member of EU (same for EWR), with a Swedish DTech, you have the choice. You can either be
Firstname Lastname, DTech
orDr. Firstname Lastname
. Again, not Dr.-Ing. even though that is the German degree corresponding to the Swedish DTech.This does not apply to so-called Berufsdoktorate where the doctor is awarded not for a research thesis but automatically when finishing a Master level education.
UK used to be in the EU until recently and the offical texts have not yet caught up with Brexit. I saw a note somewhere that UK degrees are still treated like EU.
German doctorate degrees are mostly of the form Dr. ... ...
, e.g. I'm Dr. rer. nat.
(doctor in natural things [sciences], in my case chemistry).
When addressing a person, usually at most the "doctor" is pronounced, the type/field only if that is considered important for the specific occasion.
I could ask to have the doctor put into my ID card where it would appear as
DR
(the line is all uppercase) only, without specifying what kind of doctor I am.I could also put the doctor to my doorbell, either as
Dr. rer. nat. C. Beleites
(sounds very arrogant, unless it is part of the professional doorbellChemometric Consulting Dr. rer. nat. C. Beleites
where I'd think it only a bit stuffy - as it is, the office door bell actually readsChemometric Consulting C. Beleites
) or asDr. C. Beleites
(slightly arrogant). Only my business card contains in small print the information that I'm Dr. rer. nat. and Dipl.-Chem. (since one cannot know from Dr. rer. nat. that I'm chemist).
BAppSci (Chiropractor), BAppSci (Osteopathy) that call themselves Dr.
This is not allowed in Germany. Even a physician can call themselves Dr. only if they actually obtained a doctor degree. Otherwise, they are
Firstname Lastname, Arzt
(physician, meaning they passed their state exams and got approbated) or Firstname Lastname, Facharzt für ...
(meaning they also passed the specialization exam for field ...).
If they also did their doctorate, they are Dr. med. Firstname Lastname, Facharzt für ...
.
whether having a DTech allows one to formally/officially to be designated as a Dr. P.S.
Not in Germany.
In some faculties, the candidate can ask to get e.g. a Ph. D.
rather than the usual Dr. rer. nat.
. But once that degree is awarded, one has to stick with it.