Timeline for Because of past conflicts, I don't believe my advisor will write me a good LOR for postdoc positions. What should I do?
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| Oct 14, 2015 at 4:40 | answer | added | aparente001 | timeline score: 4 | |
| Oct 4, 2015 at 22:21 | answer | added | o-0 | timeline score: 5 | |
| Oct 4, 2015 at 15:47 | comment | added | Jon Custer | I said draft, not write. Giving someone a draft means (1) you are serious, (2) you know enough about the opportunity to want to emphasize certain things, and (3) you have skin in the game as well. Few things are as hard as staring at a blank sheet of paper wondering what to say that would help. | |
| Oct 4, 2015 at 14:25 | comment | added | xLeitix | @JonCuster I find it interesting that "drafting" your own letter seems to be an acceptable and common practice, while "writing" your own letter is a big no-no (see also: academia.stackexchange.com/questions/16529/…). | |
| Oct 4, 2015 at 14:12 | comment | added | Joel | "I asked my advisor for letter and he told me that I should write my own from which he can modify. I feel this is quite strange" This is a common practice. | |
| Oct 4, 2015 at 11:08 | comment | added | gented | @xLeitix Well, we have to convey that we have had different experiences then. It also depend on your particular field of interest, namely the fewer the general available positions the more important a recommendation letter. | |
| Oct 4, 2015 at 11:00 | comment | added | xLeitix | @GennaroTedesco What? Coming from somebody who worked his entire career so far in central Europe, this is completely wrong. Personal connections (yours, or your advisor's): yes, very important. Formal LoRs: nobody cares, generally assumed to be overhyped template text (which most LoRs of European professors indeed end up being). | |
| Oct 4, 2015 at 9:35 | answer | added | Mico | timeline score: 11 | |
| Oct 4, 2015 at 6:35 | comment | added | Ooker | @ff524 Although the two top answers actually give the solution which aren't about the conflict, I would say that if we look at the atmosphere of the question and two other answers, it is the most relevant tag. | |
| Oct 4, 2015 at 6:15 | comment | added | ff524 | @Ooker Conflict is pretty well covered by the interpersonal-issues tag. I don't think that's strictly relevant to this post, either, though (others may disagree). The question isn't about the past conflict with the advisor; it's asking what to do about recommendation letters now. | |
| Oct 4, 2015 at 6:13 | comment | added | Ooker |
@ff524 thanks for reminding me that. Should we have a generic conflict tag?
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| Oct 4, 2015 at 1:49 | history | edited | ff524 | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Oct 4, 2015 at 1:47 | comment | added | ff524 | @Ooker A conflict-of-interest refers to when someone has an outside influence (like a financial interest, or personal relationship) affecting their professional responsibilities (e.g. a student being supervised by a family member). The tag doesn't seem to apply here. | |
| Oct 3, 2015 at 17:36 | comment | added | Jon Custer | Actually, drafting your own letter of recommendation is not that unusual. It gives you the ability to emphasize points of interest to you. | |
| Oct 3, 2015 at 16:43 | history | tweeted | twitter.com/StackAcademia/status/650350538270355456 | ||
| Oct 3, 2015 at 16:13 | comment | added | Nate Eldredge | @TomDworzanski: Unfortunately, as the answers below suggest, not having a letter from your PhD advisor is also begging for disappointment. It's quite possible that your best bet is to hope that your advisor can set aside personal issues and write a letter that reflects your abilities. | |
| Oct 3, 2015 at 15:49 | comment | added | user16092 | I would never ask for a LoR from someone who doesn't like me. That's just begging for disappointment. | |
| Oct 3, 2015 at 15:31 | answer | added | Nate Eldredge | timeline score: 23 | |
| Oct 3, 2015 at 10:40 | comment | added | gented | @NateEldredge Recommendation letters in Europe are, unfortunately, considered much more important than in the US. | |
| Oct 3, 2015 at 9:17 | answer | added | Patricia Shanahan | timeline score: 31 | |
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| Oct 3, 2015 at 5:03 | comment | added | Mithun | According to me, it seems to be very common issues with a person to arrange LOR from your earlier supervisor with whom the student does not have a good relation for several issues. I faced the similar issue. But I somehow managed to have a LOR, which I think, it was not so much positive. However, always be in touch with you current Postdoc supervisor, and let him convinced by your work, not by your recommendation, your work should be able to recommend you at any sense. | |
| Oct 3, 2015 at 3:26 | comment | added | Nate Eldredge | Different parts of the world have quite different practices regarding letters of recommendation. In the US they are usually considered very important, in Europe not so much. Where are you located, and where is the institution to which you are applying? | |
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| Oct 3, 2015 at 2:18 | history | asked | user10694 | CC BY-SA 3.0 |