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After finishing a paper, I'd like to show it to a few people for review. I'd like to establish publication priority somehow. The site arXiv won't do because my paper hasn't been reviewed to that level of quality. On the other hand, viXra won't do because I don't want to look like a crackpot.

Here are some desirable functions. The site:

  1. Lets me upload a file
  2. Lets me share the URL so that anyone can see it who has the URL
  3. Shows the time I uploaded the file in a trustworthy way
  4. Prevents others from modifying it-- it's view only

Bonus: 5. Shows versions of the file, together with their upload times

How many of these can be satisfied? Would a file sharing site suffice? Thanks for your advice.

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    The site arXiv won't do because my paper hasn't been reviewed to that level of quality. — What? ArXiv doesn't review anything, except to make sure submissions are well-formed (abstract, bibliography, etc.) and not blatantly out of scope. (I'm a moderator.)
    – JeffE
    Commented Oct 6, 2013 at 2:09
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    ShyPerson All of your four requirements and bonus are satisfied by arXiv. You can send the url of arXiv paper to anyone to review your paper. What are you looking for?
    – Nobody
    Commented Oct 6, 2013 at 3:52
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    If my paper is wrong and I put it on arXiv, I'll look like a crackpot. I want something a lot more obscure than arXiv while my paper is in its formative stages. I thought arXiv was really intended as a pre-publication site-- wouldn't it be misleading for me to put a paper far below pre-publication quality there when people are assuming otherwise?
    – ShyPerson
    Commented Oct 6, 2013 at 4:00
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    Private repository on Bitbucket? You can keep the TeX sources there too, which is useful for collaboration.
    – fjarri
    Commented Oct 6, 2013 at 4:27
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    So, you're looking for a site between arXiv and viXra? I have seen many poor quality papers on arXiv. I also saw some good(not a whole lot) papers on viXra. Endorsement requirement is a reason people shy away from arXiv. You should be able to put your paper on arXiv and then revise it after review.
    – Nobody
    Commented Oct 6, 2013 at 4:33

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You cannot establish priority without circulating your paper widely. Or, more precisely, you can prove that you had the idea first, but that won't help you much. Academic credit is awarded for contributing to the research community. If you have an idea and don't publicize it (so few people find out or learn from it), and someone else rediscovers the idea and tells everyone, then they will get most or all of the credit, because the community will have learned far more from them than from you. Even if you can prove you made the discovery first, you may end up as a footnote or side comment in the background sections of future papers.

This is not always fair, but it's a pretty good system. In particular, it avoids the nightmare scenario of researchers trying to establish priority while deliberately telling as few people as possible (to preserve their head start for follow-up work).

The fact that the arXiv has time stamps and keeps old versions available is potentially useful for resolving disputes, but the important aspect is that papers on the arXiv get noticed. That's why the arXiv is a good way to establish priority: the community doesn't consider "Oh, I had no idea that paper was on the arXiv" to be a good excuse. By contrast, if you post the paper somewhere much more obscure, then not noticing it would not be surprising or frowned upon.

How to handle this depends on the threat you are worried about. If you are concerned that someone you ask to look over the paper might steal your ideas, then you could cc a trusted mentor who could vouch for you if there were a dispute. On the other hand, I wouldn't worry about this too much: outright theft of ideas is rare, and why would you even want advice from someone you think might plausibly be a thief? If you are concerned about staking out credit in case someone else is independently working on similar ideas, then there's nothing you can do except get your paper in good shape and then distribute it.

If my paper is wrong and I put it on arXiv, I'll look like a crackpot. I want something a lot more obscure than arXiv while my paper is in its formative stages.

Of course it's hard to say without more information, but these comments suggest to me that worrying about credit may be premature. I'd recommend revising/polishing the paper until it is no longer potentially embarrassing or in a state of flux, and then posting it to the arXiv.

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    This "nightmare scenario" isn't just abstract, it's how things actually worked in the distant past, and it was bad. See the cubic formula insanity, the Newton/Liebnitz dispute, or Galileo's observation of the rings of Saturn. Commented Apr 18, 2016 at 16:42
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    I've heard that it's bad etiquette to share a pre-print widely. Is that true? If a paper is on viXra or arXiv or any such pre-print repository, it's proof of precedence. Even if people give credit to the wrong person due to publicity, history will sort out that error because the pre-print repository has given a timestamp to the original author.
    – Julian
    Commented Sep 5, 2020 at 11:51

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