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| Dec 17, 2017 at 6:51 | comment | added | peterh | @Docholl1 In practice it works on a way that no one has problem with it until no one knows it. | |
| Nov 6, 2017 at 7:16 | comment | added | svavil | +1 for the idea of delaying and understanding the local culture, -1 for the blanket statements. | |
| Jul 31, 2017 at 16:43 | comment | added | Docholl1 | I hit the send button inadvertently. The bottom line is this: romantic relationships between a faculty member and his or her students are prohibited by most schools. Romantic relationships are strongly discouraged in all cases between faculty and students because, from a Human Resources perspective, all such relationships are asymmetrical and therefore dangerous for the institution. Yes, we'll have to agree to disagree. | |
| Jul 31, 2017 at 16:41 | comment | added | Massimo Ortolano | I think we can stop here and agree to disagree. | |
| Jul 31, 2017 at 16:27 | comment | added | Docholl1 | Academic responsibilities for a student--such as writing a letter of recommendation--can come up two or three years after a class or a relationship ends, and a former romantic relationship with a student can lead to conflicts in innumerable cases. Dating students at other schools may not be prohibited, but any experienced teacher avoids even those entanglements because students change schools often, and if a stuent | |
| Jul 31, 2017 at 16:14 | comment | added | Massimo Ortolano | @Docholl1 That quote contradicts your claims: in fact, a faculty member does not have academic responsibilities with all the students, and certainly not with any student of the other local schools. | |
| Jul 31, 2017 at 16:01 | comment | added | Docholl1 | I, too, come from the UC system--first, as a graduate student; second, as a lecturer for several years. Perhaps you should read the University of California Policy on Conflicts of Interest Created by Consensual Relationships, Sections II and III, which say, in part, that faculty and students are governed by the Faculty Code of Conduct, "which states that it is unacceptable faculty conduct, subject to disciplinary action, for a faculty member to enter into a romantic or sexual relationship with any student for whom the faculty member has any academic responsibility. . . ." That's a "no." | |
| Jul 31, 2017 at 14:22 | comment | added | Dan Romik | @Docholl1 with respect, I see no reason for any of us to give credence to your claim about "most schools", particularly when your earlier claim about "no school at any level" was easily refuted. My school is part of the University of California system, which has 10 campuses and is (I think) the largest public university system in the country. All of the UC campuses have the same sexual harassment policy that does not have a blanket prohibition on faculty-student relationships. So my school is very far from being unusual. If you want to convince us otherwise, it's up to you to provide evidence. | |
| Jul 31, 2017 at 13:09 | comment | added | Docholl1 | With respect, most schools do prohibit such relationships. Google the phrase "consensual romantic relationships between faculty and students," and then start counting. There may be a few schools that are silent on such matters, but most colleges and universities have a policy that either prohibits or strongly discourages romantic relationships. In any case, there is no good professional outcome in a romantic teacher-student relationship. The key word here is "romantic." | |
| Jul 31, 2017 at 12:44 | comment | added | Massimo Ortolano | Docholl, I know several professors who not only dated students, but also married them: some of the relationships ended badly, some no, as any other relationship between people. And in my experience, most of the schools do not forbid relationships between faculties and students. | |
| Jul 31, 2017 at 12:41 | comment | added | Docholl1 | Your school, then, is unusual. Google the topic, and you'll find that most schools have such a policy--use "consensual romantic relationships between faculty and students." Most schools prohibit such relationships between a teacher and his or her students; a very few do not prohibit a relationship berween a teacher and a student if there is no academic relationship, but discourage even that relationship because the power in that relationship is still unbalanced. | |
| Jul 31, 2017 at 12:02 | comment | added | Dan Romik | @Docholl1 my school does not prohibit romantic relationship between faculty and people who are students at the same institution (but not under direct supervision), so your claim "no school at any level..." is factually incorrect. This seems to be a common misunderstanding here, sadly. Would you care to clarify your comment in light of this so that we all become wiser about this topic? And where exactly does one go to "do some research on the issue of instructors dating students"? Telling people to go "do some research" without explaining how they are supposed to do that is not exactly helpful. | |
| Jul 31, 2017 at 11:53 | comment | added | Docholl1 | Thanks for the comment, but you might do some research on the issue of instructors dating students. My personal beliefs are irrelevant here. If an instructor dates a student and is found out, he or she will quickly be on a new career path. No school at any level permits an instructor to date a student. | |
| Jul 31, 2017 at 9:24 | comment | added | Massimo Ortolano | "it would be ultimately fatal for you to date students from your institution or any other local school": Personal beliefs apart, this is a totally unsupported claim, especially for a 27-years old person like the OP. | |
| Jul 30, 2017 at 15:43 | history | answered | Docholl1 | CC BY-SA 3.0 |