Timeline for Should I hide the fact that I did a group assignment completely by myself?
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| Jul 4, 2017 at 14:52 | comment | added | WoJ | @6005: I agree, such cases get very complicated and deserve at least some mediation between the students (or, as you mentioned, the possibility to change groups). In my cases the situation was clear so it was simple. There is also a difference depending on whether the pairing is random or people are free to choose their team members. | |
| Jul 4, 2017 at 14:45 | comment | added | Caleb Stanford | @WoJ Thanks for your clarification. I agree with everything you say, at least in principle! I think there is quite a grey area -- what level of work is expected for you to not be considered a leech? Would it be reasonable, for example, if I plan to do the work later, but my partner decides to do it now so then I don't bother? In my experience the one doing the work is not necessarily a bad guy, but they are often the kind of Type A personality where they can't stand waiting for the others, can't stand mediocre-quality work from the others, etc. | |
| Jul 4, 2017 at 14:38 | comment | added | WoJ | @6005: and to be fair, i also had the case of a student who TWICE failed to give back a correct assignment (for the same lab) in a team of two, to the dismay of his colleague (they decided that each of them would do a complete lab on their own, alternating between them). It is a good thing that the TA was understanding and that they had excellent marks otherwise. Ah, and that student failing TWICE do give a correct assignment was me. Chris, if you are reading this... :) | |
| Jul 4, 2017 at 14:34 | comment | added | WoJ | @6005: there is a whole spectrum of cases. The ones I had (as a teacher) was with students who were true leeches and they deserved a zero for not putting in the smallest effort into the assignment. A few more like those and they would have ample time to redo the exercise when they fail the year. There are certainly cases where the one doing the work is the "bad guy" in the team but (from my limited 5 years teaching at the uni) this is a rare case. I rather had lawful-good students, to use the D&D terms. But yes, a specific case like the one you mentioned would have been handled differently | |
| Jul 4, 2017 at 14:30 | comment | added | Caleb Stanford | In other words, students in a group have no right to expect that the others in the group do the work in a particular way or on a particular timeline; the others in the group might rightfully be upset that they can't do the work when they want to, and do the quality of work that they have time to do. The only way to avoid all of the madness is to allow students a way out, allow them to switch groups, or to re-complete an individual assignment on their own if something goes wrong in their original group. | |
| Jul 4, 2017 at 14:30 | comment | added | Caleb Stanford | +1 to this answer BUT: giving the others zero is unfair. You should give them a chance to re-complete the assignment by themselves. While the student who did all the work may have good reason to have done so, this kind of policy allows students to threaten and take charge of a group -- "do your part on my timeline and by my rules or I will do all the work myself and submit it to the instructor and tell them you did nothing." | |
| Jul 2, 2017 at 18:43 | comment | added | ivanivan | When I was a student, one of our instructors had us detail what each group member did on a project, signed by all group members as part of the submission. He also asked for private one on one evals of your group members. I liked it so much, this is what I do when I assign group projects now... | |
| Jul 2, 2017 at 17:38 | history | edited | WoJ | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Jul 2, 2017 at 17:36 | comment | added | WoJ | @lijat: it is great that you have such rules in place. In my case there was nothing explicitly stated but the context (the kind of school and France as a country) helped to go the "individual" way when marking the work. | |
| Jul 2, 2017 at 16:45 | comment | added | lijat | I agree with this answer from both a student and instructor perspective. As an instructor I have on numerous occasions awarded different grades to the students doing the work and the ones just being dragged along. In our department rules this is specified as how this should be handled (Everyone should be graded individually) and this was also communicated to instructors from department leaders. I realize that the academic culture differ in different regions so this is from Sweden. | |
| Jul 1, 2017 at 21:29 | history | answered | WoJ | CC BY-SA 3.0 |