Timeline for Computer Science Papers - English Language Quality [closed]
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| May 8, 2017 at 15:02 | review | Reopen votes | |||
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| May 8, 2017 at 14:46 | comment | added | Fred Douglis | I can't tell from this question whether OP is saying that the reviewers ask for prof. editing and reject based on that requirement (implied) or whether they accept a paper, but still ask for better editing (possible). As I mentioned in a comment on my answer, I've often asked for a paper to be better edited by someone strong in English, but I've only rarely found it so unreadable that I rejected it solely on that basis. It does happen. // But whether it's rejected or simply advised to do better, I think it is fair for English language publications to try to publish readable papers. | |
| S May 8, 2017 at 14:46 | history | suggested | Helen | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
Making the question more clear so that it can get off-hold.
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| May 8, 2017 at 14:20 | comment | added | Helen | I just edited the question making it more clear, in an effort to have it off-hold. Imho what the OP was asking was clear since the beginning, therefore I ask for the question to get off-hold. (I am afraid that s/he fell victim of his subjective phrasing, which shouldn't be a reason to hold an otherwise excellent academia-related question.) | |
| May 8, 2017 at 14:18 | review | Suggested edits | |||
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| May 8, 2017 at 14:02 | history | closed |
aparente001 Nobody user3209815 David Richerby HEITZ |
Needs details or clarity | |
| May 8, 2017 at 4:00 | history | edited | Backward | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
Improved explanation
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| May 8, 2017 at 3:39 | review | Close votes | |||
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| May 8, 2017 at 3:20 | comment | added | aparente001 | @Helen - Okay, there's no doubt that there's inconstency in journals' expectations and standards -- but I think OP would get a better reception to the question if s/he edited the question to have a less confusing point of view, and a more clearly defined question. Right now it sounds like a bit of a dual rant. | |
| May 8, 2017 at 3:16 | comment | added | Helen | @aparente001 I think s/he means that there are random standards applied to the language level. | |
| May 8, 2017 at 3:13 | comment | added | aparente001 | @Helen - Well, I am definitely having trouble understanding OP's point of view on this. On the one hand, s/he describes having read many published papers with a poor level of English. On the other hand, s/he is not happy about being required to obtain editing services for journal submissions. I do find this confusing. | |
| May 8, 2017 at 2:45 | comment | added | Helen | @aparente001 , s/he didn't write anything critical of authors who publish with poor English. You simply jumped into conclusions and took the chance to sound aggressive, imho. (Communicating effectively also involves effort for understanding.) | |
| May 7, 2017 at 22:22 | answer | added | Fred Douglis | timeline score: 3 | |
| May 7, 2017 at 21:38 | comment | added | aparente001 | This is a strange post! At first, you seem critical of authors who publish papers written with poor English. Then you suddenly veer off into frustration with editors who have asked you to clean up your English. Regarding that last part, imagine that someone is trying to publish in your native language, but doesn't seem to have checked his text with a native speaker, with the result that some of the sentences make no sense, some require a lot of work to understand, and some have mistakes that make you laugh. Yuck! // Communicating effectively with others is hard work and takes real effort. | |
| May 7, 2017 at 20:41 | comment | added | Backward | @mystupid_acct The paper which was accepted at the end after professional English editing, had only that one problem after the review. Other papers are still not accepted because i have to do revision, but reviewers constantly ask for better English. I hope it is a "normal" thing for new authors to be rejected because of such reasons, but i can't be sure about that. | |
| May 7, 2017 at 19:38 | comment | added | mystupid_acct | Was your paper rejected for english reasons ?. Having couple of papers rejected from top journals is not unusual. | |
| S May 7, 2017 at 17:06 | history | suggested | Helen |
Changed tags to more objective.
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| May 7, 2017 at 14:51 | review | Suggested edits | |||
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| May 7, 2017 at 9:31 | comment | added | lighthouse keeper | Nobody forces you to pay for professional editing. Writing English on a sufficient level to participate in the scientific discourse is a learned skill. Just like with many other skills you need for research (for example, programming or lab-work skills), you can either learn the skill or outsource them to some payed agency. | |
| May 7, 2017 at 6:16 | history | asked | Backward | CC BY-SA 3.0 |