Timeline for What to do with a student coming to class in revealing clothing, to the degree that it disrupts the teaching environment?
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| Jan 19, 2017 at 16:56 | comment | added | user428517 | @xmp125a that's certainly one opinion. i disagree. there's a dress code. the student is following it and not otherwise doing anything wrong. | |
| Jan 19, 2017 at 5:56 | comment | added | xmp125a | @sgroves you are sadly mistaken about the standards for harassment. At least for men, it is quite obvious, rightly or not, that the standard of what constitutes the harassment is decided by the the potential harassee population (women), not the harasser. Asking your female colleague out is not harassment per se, but do it repeatedly 10 times after she refuses each time, and you will be referred to counseling or worse. Yes, revealing clothing or even bikini on a hot summer day is one thing, doing it systematically, is quite another. | |
| Jan 19, 2017 at 1:06 | comment | added | user428517 | this answer is laughably ridiculous. if the student is dressing within the dress code (it sounds like she is), there is simply no possible way she could be harrassing you. what misguided logic. the best course of action is, of course, to GET OVER YOURSELF (and possibly your childhood) and do nothing. (waiting for this comment to be deleted in 3.. 2..) | |
| Jan 17, 2017 at 16:27 | comment | added | Bohemian | This is a cop out. The superior will face exactly the same question. It's the teacher's responsibility and authority to bring the student in line. Tell her to dress respectfully. That's the end of it. And as a side note, when the superior visits this site looking for advice, and (s)he follows it, you'll get a recursive loop all the way to the chairman, whose role is way above dealing with this issue. | |
| Jan 12, 2017 at 18:11 | comment | added | anonymous | @StrongBad If a student wears a swimsuit to a classroom based lecture the instructor is well within their rights to question why they are doing it since it would cause a disruption to other students. | |
| Jan 12, 2017 at 16:29 | comment | added | StrongBad | There is no issue with telling students to stop harassing another student. As long as the students appearance is not harassing the other students (and a bikini falls into this category), you can always deal with it after the fact. While the authority might invite the student for a chat, in an ideal world they would invite the students who are being disruptive for the chat. | |
| Jan 12, 2017 at 15:01 | comment | added | xmp125a | @StrongBad Well, intervention by head is something, but the OP is in real difficulty if he has to intervene if the girl shows up again in the bikini and the situation escalates (teasing, harassment towards the girl). And merely defusing the situation in real time may put him in a very difficult position. Therefore, it should be clearly documented that he notified the appropriate authorities (person tasked with prevention of sexual harassment, if there is one) in time. Maybe they (the authority) will even invite a girl to a chat, for her own benefit. | |
| Jan 12, 2017 at 12:26 | comment | added | StrongBad | The OP already went to the head of department who outlined conditions on which they would intervene. My read was that the OP was not feeling harassed (otherwise it is a duplicate to the linked question), but worried about the mm disruption. | |
| Jan 12, 2017 at 11:49 | comment | added | gerrit | I think the second paragraph outlines the optimal option. Not only notify the counsellor, but also ask them for a recommendation and follow that. Or even ask them to talk to her directly if they do recommend to take action (which I would not expect). Keep evidence of this communication. That way, if you are accused of inaction for being a “perv”¹, you can hide behind the back of the counsellor and show you followed their advice. (¹I see no perversion in an adult heterosexual male being distracted by a adult female wearing revealing clothing) | |
| Jan 12, 2017 at 5:52 | history | answered | xmp125a | CC BY-SA 3.0 |