Timeline for Sex worker student offering her (lawful) services
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Dec 4 at 15:29 | history | unprotected | Buzz | ||
Dec 9, 2019 at 20:40 | comment | added | smci | @gerrit: handing out fliers is so 1990s... reminiscent of a Soho phonebox back in the day | |
Sep 24, 2019 at 22:14 | comment | added | User | Did you talk with your collegues about this and did she also advertise their service to them? | |
Sep 24, 2019 at 21:33 | history | edited | einpoklum | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
It's not either/or, it a sex worker who is a student. Also, she's not offering "legal services" like lawyers offer "legal services".
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Jan 29, 2018 at 20:20 | vote | accept | StrongBad | ||
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Nov 3, 2017 at 10:09 | comment | added | Simd | It's an interesting asymmetry as if the situation were reversed, you would be fired on the spot. But as a student, in practical terms the university is very unlikely to do anything about it unless she physically assaults you. As it is your only option is to say you are not interested firmly and change the topic. I would ask your head of school to step in if it happens again as well. At least that way the problem can be shared. | |
Oct 31, 2017 at 15:20 | comment | added | peterh | @StrongBad Even if she would have an ice shop and would want to call the prof to visit, it would be problematic. But this student wants to sell sex. The decriminalization of the prostitution happened to defend the prostitutes from the misuses of their "managers", and not make such serious ethical misconducts legal. | |
Oct 31, 2017 at 15:14 | comment | added | StrongBad | @peterh except students are not employees (at least undergraduate ones). | |
Sep 23, 2017 at 1:13 | answer | added | Tom Au | timeline score: 3 | |
Dec 5, 2016 at 15:15 | comment | added | Daniel | If one of the faculty accepts her offer, perhaps she can use a hidden camera to record it and later on blackmail the teacher for a better grade. | |
Sep 25, 2016 at 8:06 | comment | added | Federico Poloni | @ff524 After a little thought, I have suggested a different solution in meta.academia.stackexchange.com/questions/3477/… (renaming the tag "sexual conduct"). | |
Sep 25, 2016 at 7:43 | comment | added | ff524 | @Federico I approved the edit, but removed the line This tag is intended to be used mainly in questions of the form "is doing this OK?" because there are many other potential uses of the tag: for example, questions about creating a sexual misconduct policy for a university, or about impact of sexual misconduct accusations on future career, or about how to protect oneself against accusations of sexual misconduct in certain situations... etc. I don't think the tag is primarily for "Is this OK" questions. | |
Sep 25, 2016 at 7:31 | comment | added | Federico Poloni | @ff524 I don't feel strongly about this. I don't object to you reverting the tag edit, but in addition to that I'd like to edit the tag wiki to specify that it is used for cases of possible sexual misconduct. I will do it right after writing this comment. | |
Sep 25, 2016 at 7:12 | comment | added | ff524 | @Federico I think the tag "sexual-sphere" is somewhat ambiguous and may not be a useful tag. I also think it makes sense to have a "sexual-misconduct" tag on a question asking if the behavior is misconduct, without implying judgement, just as we could have an "ethics" tag on a question asking if something is ethical - even if the answer is that there's no ethical problem. I suggest raising the issue on Academia Meta if you feel strongly about the tag. | |
Sep 25, 2016 at 7:09 | history | edited | ff524 |
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Sep 25, 2016 at 7:07 | comment | added | Federico Poloni | I have edited the title so that it reflects the content of the question more closely (I think), but I am not 100% satisfied with the result; if you have improvements feel free to do so. I have also removed the tag:sexual-misconduct, because "misconduct" already implies a judgment which is not crystal clear in my opinion. | |
Sep 25, 2016 at 7:05 | history | edited | Federico Poloni | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
title now reflects the situation more; loaded "sexual-misconduct" flag removed
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Sep 25, 2016 at 6:40 | history | protected | ff524 | ||
S Sep 21, 2016 at 14:15 | history | suggested | BCLC |
I added the UK tag
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Sep 21, 2016 at 13:56 | comment | added | Dilworth | I believe a clarification is needed in order to answer the question ("what is the correct response in a situation like this?") properly: is the OP interested in her services, or not? | |
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Sep 21, 2016 at 7:50 | comment | added | Hadi | It depends on you actually:) | |
Apr 17, 2016 at 10:47 | comment | added | candied_orange | Even if it's legal in the UK, even if she's not simply interested in you, even if you don't feel sexually harassed, she is soliciting the same as if she were trying to sell you encyclopedias. Treat her like any other salesperson who doesn't have a contract with the school. Rain the fury of the bookstore down upon her. | |
Jun 2, 2015 at 10:08 | comment | added | StrongBad | @Matka According to wikipedia "In Great Britain (England, Wales and Scotland), prostitution itself (the exchange of sexual services for money) is legal". It is only since January 2015 that it is illegal in Northern Ireland. I have not heard about any changes in the rest of the UK. | |
Jun 2, 2015 at 9:56 | comment | added | Matka | Prostitution is not legal in the UK. | |
Feb 27, 2013 at 14:23 | vote | accept | StrongBad | ||
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Feb 27, 2013 at 6:25 | comment | added | Lie Ryan | The offer is inappropriate because it could jeopardize the objectivity of the teacher/student relationship, which is important for a teacher to do their job properly. Let's not assume malice, she's probably just ignorant about when is and is not appropriate time to advertise a business, and classroom is never the right time to do so. | |
Feb 27, 2013 at 6:09 | comment | added | Lie Ryan | @AlexanderGruber: it could also mean she probably thinks nothing of it, it's a job and a legal one at her place; there is no objective reason she need to keep it a secret especially if she is the type that don't really care about other people's reaction. You're probably reading too much into it. | |
Feb 26, 2013 at 22:46 | history | unprotected | eykanal | ||
Feb 25, 2013 at 22:26 | comment | added | Alexander Gruber | You know, I knew a couple girls who stripped to pay their way through college, and both of them would have been mortified if any of their classmates found out, much less their prof. To them stripping was a fun, well-paying means to an end, not something they wanted to bleed over into their "real life." They wouldn't offer their services to friends or acquaintances outside of work. Maybe it works differently with escorts, but I'm inclined to say that it's not just "advertising her business." She's hitting on you. | |
Feb 25, 2013 at 16:59 | comment | added | StrongBad | @Bobson it was during my office hours. My door was open, but there were no other students. | |
Feb 25, 2013 at 16:38 | comment | added | Bobson | It's worth asking whether she said it in such a way that it could be construed as advertising to her classmates as well, or whether it was explicitly directed at you. Not that it's appropriate for the classroom in either case, but if it was intended as a general announcement, the student/teacher crossover is less relevant. | |
Feb 25, 2013 at 16:19 | comment | added | gerrit | @LordScree The fact that they are in a student-teacher relationship makes the situation rather unique. If she was handing out fliers at a construction sites' lunch break it would be a different situation. | |
Feb 25, 2013 at 16:12 | comment | added | user6126 | From her point of view, she's just advertising her business, the same way you might leave fliers around the college for your cupcake sale. I don't see what this has to do with academia as the answer could apply to any organisation (assuming she's over 18...). | |
Feb 25, 2013 at 15:26 | comment | added | StrongBad | @gerrit I took it more as an advertisement and not a bribe. | |
Feb 25, 2013 at 14:57 | answer | added | gerrit | timeline score: 107 | |
Feb 25, 2013 at 14:57 | history | protected | eykanal | ||
Feb 25, 2013 at 14:44 | comment | added | JRN | Is this any different than a student telling me she works in a restaurant? If she was not your student, and she asked you to eat at the restaurant where she works, would you say yes? If she was not your student, and she offered you her "services," would you say yes? I think the two instances are different. I think more people would frown upon the second instance. | |
Feb 25, 2013 at 14:41 | comment | added | gerrit | @JeffE I think it might, as one could be interpreted as a bribe, whereas the other cannot. I'm not saying either is appropriate, but the severity of a misconduct can be different depending on what is the case, perhaps (I'm not sure). | |
Feb 25, 2013 at 14:40 | comment | added | JeffE | @gerrit: Does it matter? | |
Feb 25, 2013 at 14:40 | comment | added | gerrit | Did she offer her services free of charge, or is she simply advertising her craft? | |
Feb 25, 2013 at 14:35 | answer | added | user4511 | timeline score: 39 | |
Feb 25, 2013 at 13:40 | answer | added | F'x | timeline score: 218 | |
Feb 25, 2013 at 13:27 | history | tweeted | twitter.com/#!/StackAcademia/status/306032606045155329 | ||
Feb 25, 2013 at 13:22 | history | asked | StrongBad | CC BY-SA 3.0 |