Timeline for How to explain to a student that it is common to include a supervisor as a co-author?
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| Sep 28, 2015 at 16:27 | comment | added | Pete L. Clark | @BrianBorchers: According to my reading of the ICMJE guidelines, contributions of the sort Paul describes are enough to merit the opportunity for coauthorship. In order to get coauthorship one should also be actively involved in writing the paper, for instance. It is a standard cliche in my circle that advisor contributions stop short of this point. | |
| Sep 27, 2015 at 19:26 | comment | added | Brian M. Scott | @paul: Not harsh at all; rather the opposite, really, since her students were encouraged to work on what interested them. In Mike Starbird's case it was something on which she was also working, and they got a couple of joint papers out it; in mine, at the same time, it wasn't. And it was fine for both of us. | |
| Sep 27, 2015 at 19:10 | comment | added | paul garrett | @BrianM.Scott, I suppose tastes vary, but this seems like a harsh environment. | |
| Sep 27, 2015 at 18:21 | comment | added | Brian M. Scott | My PhD was done independently of my adviser in every mathematical sense. Her contributions were (1) frequently coming back from conferences with questions that people were asking and handing them out in case anyone took an interest in one – I did, and the work grew into a dissertation – and (2) taking care of the administrative duties of an adviser. Oh, and cheerleading a bit. She was not interested in that particular topic, and I was doing fine on my own, so it all worked out perfectly. I’d not trade her for anyone else. (And I proofread a monograph of hers, rather than the other way round.) | |
| Sep 25, 2015 at 15:38 | comment | added | paul garrett | @BrianBorchers, within some approximation, "yes". For that matter, it goes both ways: perhaps I'd not want to be entangled with a write-up that "doesn't suit me" for whatever stylistic reason. Perhaps a novice positively needs to write out details that I don't need to write out. Perhaps that could even be the point of the paper... Extreme asymmetry in many regards. | |
| S Sep 25, 2015 at 15:07 | history | suggested | terdon | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Sep 25, 2015 at 14:03 | comment | added | Brian Borchers | So just to be clear, you're arguing that even though as an advisor you've contributed substantially enough to a student's paper to merit coauthorship under the Vancouver protocol (ICMJE guidelines), you don't wish to be listed as a coauthor because in your field it's the cultural norm for advisors to let advisees take full credit for the work? | |
| Sep 24, 2015 at 22:27 | history | answered | paul garrett | CC BY-SA 3.0 |