Timeline for How to handle someone propositioning me to collude/cheat with them on an assignment?
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| Jun 12, 2014 at 11:04 | comment | added | Steve Jessop | @DavidRicherby: Agreed, generalized inchoate offences (conspiracy, attempt, solicitation, accessory) are a principle of English common law and similar systems. In some sense the crime of murder, plus the general principle of conspiracy, yields a new crime of conspiracy to murder. It's characteristic of an inchoate offence that no act causing criminal harm is performed by the offender. | |
| Jun 10, 2014 at 9:51 | comment | added | aeismail | @BoratSagdiyev: Unless the other person has equally tangible evidence, the original message is too damning to be ignored or explained away. | |
| Jun 10, 2014 at 6:37 | comment | added | Erran Morad | @aeismail - wondering if the fb messgaing could be used to turn the tables on OP. Culprit could claim that the deal was struck, but went sour and now the OP is complaining to take revenge. What do you do then ? OR, I came to know OP was into cheating, so I wanted to trap OP and report him to authorities ? Checkmate ? | |
| May 13, 2014 at 4:50 | comment | added | David Richerby | @FaheemMitha As has been pointed out, this is not a criminal matter. But, since you mention it, most jurisdictions do have "victimless" crimes: for example, conspiracy to murder is usually a crime, even if the murder doesn't happen. | |
| May 12, 2014 at 7:05 | comment | added | Raphael | To be fair, I think we have to check the premise: is the proposed act even cheating? It seems to me that 'John' proposes to exchange somewhat public information. The evaluation system seems to rely on security by obscurity (using the same questions at differents point in time, assuming students don't talk), which is dumb; reusing last year's questions is lazy. So this may be a case of students exploting sloppy work of a teacher with fair means -- talking -- not strictly cheating. | |
| May 12, 2014 at 3:02 | vote | accept | Frames Catherine White | ||
| May 12, 2014 at 1:45 | comment | added | apnorton | Another reason to report: There is a very real possibility that John has been cheating all along in school. Reporting him for attempted cheating (even if it is not an actual violation of the honor code) means that his past work may be placed under extra scrutiny. | |
| May 11, 2014 at 18:24 | comment | added | aeismail | Given the specificity of the email, it's unlikely it's a hack, unless someone pranked him. But in that case, the burden is still on the instigator. | |
| May 11, 2014 at 17:29 | comment | added | Rob P. | I'm not sure how 'verifiable' Facebook really is. Even if you could obtain logs from Facebook itself, that would just indicate that someone using some IP address sent a message. Anyone can create a 'fake' Facebook profile, and plenty of Facebook profiles have been hacked or even just a student leaves the lab without logging out. | |
| May 11, 2014 at 16:53 | comment | added | Faheem Mitha | @dmckee It is unfair to the people who are not cheating, certainly. | |
| May 11, 2014 at 16:48 | comment | added | dmckee --- ex-moderator kitten | Just because you can't see the damage here and now doesn't make it unreal. | |
| May 11, 2014 at 16:47 | comment | added | dmckee --- ex-moderator kitten | @FaheemMitha There are victims of cheating: anyone (and everyone) who did not cheat and loses a later opportunity to the cheater. Grades are going to be important in getting into grad school or having graduation honors on your diploma to show prospective employers. This is why people cheat! Because the results matter to their future prospects, and they want to steal someone else's chances. | |
| May 11, 2014 at 16:46 | comment | added | Faheem Mitha | @aeismail: Ok, if failure to report is a violation, that is a good reason to report, certainly. | |
| May 11, 2014 at 16:32 | comment | added | aeismail | @Oxinabox: Check your school's code of academic conduct (if one exists); how to report a violation should be listed there. If no such guidelines exist, start with the professor of the courses involved. | |
| May 11, 2014 at 16:31 | comment | added | aeismail | @FaheemMitha: It's not a crime because no law is being broken. However, it is a clear case of academic misconduct—and, depending on the poster's school's code of conduct, not reporting may be tantamount to a violation in and of itself! | |
| May 11, 2014 at 15:57 | comment | added | Faheem Mitha | I would not call the suggestion of cheating in this context a crime. A crime has victims. Granted, it is (the suggestion of) immoral behavior, but small potatoes in the grand scheme of things. Personally, if this happens to me, I would not report it, I do not consider it my business to police other peoples morality. But it really is up to the poster, I think. | |
| May 11, 2014 at 15:46 | comment | added | dmckee --- ex-moderator kitten | "Putting such a request in a written, verifiable manner as this student has done is incredibly dumb," Oh, please tell me that they did it on university provided email as well. Then we'll have a bonus round of dumbitude. | |
| May 11, 2014 at 15:44 | comment | added | dmckee --- ex-moderator kitten | @Oxinabox You report to the professor (who will escalate if (s)he deems fit) or to the institution's honor board. | |
| May 11, 2014 at 15:32 | comment | added | Anonymous | @FaheemMitha: The same as the rationale for calling the police if you witness a crime. Attempting to cheat should have negative consequences. | |
| May 11, 2014 at 15:15 | comment | added | Faheem Mitha | I agree that declining the offer in writing has no downside and is a good idea, but what is the rationale for reporting this person? | |
| May 11, 2014 at 14:36 | comment | added | Frames Catherine White | Who do you recommend reporting to? Which proffessor/ the head of school / all of the above? | |
| May 11, 2014 at 14:27 | history | answered | aeismail | CC BY-SA 3.0 |