Timeline for Is it possible to face future problems performing calculations based on possibly wrong data from the paper of other authors?
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Apr 10, 2022 at 5:42 | comment | added | Lodinn | @OAS First of all, good to know you have cleared the air. I have not made any assumptions you seem to be so hell bent on, the only assumption I am operating on is the one you have provided yourself in the question: data values should be X but seem to be Y when recalculated, and are considering to not act upon this discrepancy. You wanted a "pragmatic" answer, I gave you one: this is misconduct. Simple as that. Couldn't care less about the who authored what or anything of that sort (and it is a bad thing to make it affect judgement!). It is misconduct all the same. You have acted, so all good | |
Apr 9, 2022 at 2:12 | comment | added | OAS | I can assure you that be a scientist in a emergent country and not no speak english fluently do not make me dumb or unaware about COPE rules. Guess what? My concerns were about the data published by authors from UK. I appreciate your advice but a passive-agressive action is not necessary. | |
Apr 9, 2022 at 2:03 | comment | added | OAS | I'm not aware about anything, I was SUSPECTING of a problem. You would appreciate to know that I talked with the authors and all is fine with the data. This was just a misunderstanding. Your assumptions are not my problem. Everything is fine. I just made a pragmatic question.Misunderstanding is not a problem. Unfortunately, I can't say the same about judgment without knowing all the details. Regardless of this, my raw data is avaliable and I appreciate if you confirm the reliability of the results by yourself. | |
Apr 8, 2022 at 8:29 | comment | added | Lodinn | @OAS Basically what Andrew said. You phrase it as "face future problems". How is submitting a corrigendum "problems"? If you are aware of an issue, it's somewhat serious (not just a rounding error, has a potential to affect interpretation of the results) and are willing to just let it go because doing otherwise means extra effort - that's misconduct. Not sure what kind of taboo and involved stigma are you talking about in your last comment - is it about data manipulation/fabrication? No one is accusing you of this. It's not like that is the only kind of misconduct out there. | |
Apr 8, 2022 at 6:27 | comment | added | OAS | Believe me, I know Retraction Watch, I know what is an erratum, a corrigendum, a retraction and I follow Elizabeth Bik on Twitter (lol, and I love her work in image forensics). And of course, I know the taboo and the involved stigma. However, I appreciate your advice (the accusation was not necessary, but thanks). | |
Apr 8, 2022 at 6:27 | comment | added | Andrew | @OAS I think Lodinn was responding to one way you could read your question: "if I don't correct the error in my paper because it was not my fault, will I face consequences?" I don't think this is exactly what you intended, but this sentence could be interpreted that way: "If their calculations were actually wrong, can I face future problems even the mistake is not mine?" | |
Apr 8, 2022 at 6:16 | comment | added | OAS | How can It be the right question if I did not do anything in bad faith/ dos not practice misconduct? It is ok to tell me to send a corrigendum if there was a mistake or even contact the authors to get the things straight or correct the record but I honestly do not think I gave no reason to extrapolate this to bad faith. | |
Apr 8, 2022 at 6:00 | history | answered | Lodinn | CC BY-SA 4.0 |