Timeline for UK faculty salaries are much lower than US – is there any upside?
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| Feb 18, 2022 at 13:20 | comment | added | user104446 | I get the indirect nature of it all. Paradoxically, organizations with means to offer basic research funding fall for pitches stressing immediate applications for the project's output while companies depending on technological advantage tend to be a bit speculative - as long as the funding is not excessive. It's easy to get private sector support for final year projects and, if these look promising, for extension to MSc/PhD work. Must have trust between academic and funder. If dismissed Dr T offers seminars/CPD refreshers/etc to employers of his ex-students, maybe things may improve fundswise. | |
| Feb 18, 2022 at 11:48 | comment | added | Ian Sudbery | @Trunk Its tricky - grants here don't tend to explicitly cover much of the PIs salary - maybe 5 or 10%. But of course they come with overheads.... Having a summer without a grant is not going to mean you are not paid, but too long without a grant and your position become difficult to maintain. | |
| Feb 16, 2022 at 0:49 | comment | added | user104446 | So they had at least to part fund their own salaries within so many years under the 40-40-20 effort division? These cases stuck in my mind as it had to be heartbreaking for someone going home with a dismissal letter after giving their all in classes. | |
| Feb 15, 2022 at 19:35 | comment | added | Ian Sudbery | @Trunk So, for example in the two cases you cite my colleagues were on "performance management programs" for well over a year before they were dismissed. | |
| Feb 15, 2022 at 19:33 | comment | added | Ian Sudbery | As I said without a "legally valid" reason. Inability to do your job is one such valid reason. However, the process is long and complicated. The employer must show that they've given you specific instructions on what you are doing wrong, and what exactly to do to make it better. What counts as a reasonable expectation would be decided by a judge by reference to normal expectation in the field if you were to bring a claim of unfair dismissal. I believe that processes to dismiss "incompetent" professors technically exist in most US tenure contracts, but are very rarely used. | |
| Feb 15, 2022 at 14:16 | comment | added | user104446 | After two years you cannot be sacked without a "legally valid" reason, and are legally entitled to severance pay. After 4 years you are automatically a permanent employee, which means "your contract is up" is no longer a "legally valid" reason ... plus As the employment is full-time 12 months, you will never be expected to fund your own salary, nor your take home pay affected by your ability to bring in research funding. Yet this never saved your two colleagues who didn't pull in enough research funding, one of whom was a gifted teacher, you say. Something is missing here. | |
| Feb 12, 2022 at 12:01 | history | edited | Brian Tompsett - 汤莱恩 | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
Fixed some typos
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| Feb 12, 2022 at 11:24 | history | answered | Ian Sudbery | CC BY-SA 4.0 |