Timeline for UK faculty salaries are much lower than US – is there any upside?
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| Feb 10, 2022 at 15:09 | comment | added | user3037237 | @MichaelKay I don't care about the absolute differences in salary, but rather the relative differences in relation to cost of living, i.e., as quantified by local purchasing power. | |
| Feb 10, 2022 at 12:29 | comment | added | Michael Kay | Fluctuations in exchange rate make very little difference to your life unless your income is in one currency and your expenditure in another. Which shows that applying today's exchange rate to compare salaries doesn't make much sense. | |
| Feb 9, 2022 at 15:42 | comment | added | Joseph Wright | @ZeroTheHero Sure, that's just covered though by standard employment law: in order to make someone (compulsory) redundant, there has to be a process including union consultation, etc. There have been redundancies at UK institutions, but they've attracted 'attention' and link to ceasing to teach certain areas. That tends to lead to people wanting to leave anyway: the usual issue is retaining enough staff to teach-out the course. | |
| Feb 9, 2022 at 12:54 | comment | added | ZeroTheHero | @JosephWright sorry but maybe I was not clear: the admin. at my university cannot reorganize my job away. To close my unit would require extraordinary circumstances and a process spelled out in full in the faculty agreement. As a tenured professor, I am essentially immune from redundancy by administrative shuffle. | |
| Feb 9, 2022 at 11:51 | comment | added | Joseph Wright | @user3037237 I'm afraid I can't comment on that: I've only ever worked in the UK, so whilst I know what I'd expect as 'start up' here in my subject area, I'm really not sure what one would get in other parts of the world. | |
| Feb 9, 2022 at 11:47 | comment | added | user3037237 | @JosephWright have you found that those sort of lab-based perks are good in the UK relative to the US? Are there other perks you've found? | |
| Feb 9, 2022 at 9:52 | comment | added | Joseph Wright | @user3037237 I think the problem here is if you don't have a preference and have multiple offers, the usual determinant would be not your perks, etc., but what's on offer for your research. We don't know what area you work in, but for me (lab-based research) I'd be thinking cash for my group for e.g. equipment, students, and wider environment e.g. shared equipment, potential collaborators. | |
| Feb 9, 2022 at 9:19 | comment | added | user3037237 | @NoahSnyder Yeah it's true that people don't generally have the luxury. But I was pretty successful on this last hiring round and have a few competing offers. The problem is I've never lived in any of the cities, and so I'm trying to get some idea of why people might like one place vs another. None are close to me right now, so I'm moving either way (I live in another country in Europe currently). And I don't really care about the GBP/USD exchange rate -- it's really about cost of living relative to salary, i.e., local purchasing power. The tenure system differences are definitely a plus. | |
| Feb 9, 2022 at 9:09 | comment | added | Joseph Wright | @ZeroTheHero That's true of any job - if your employer closes down, you are made redundant | |
| Feb 9, 2022 at 9:00 | comment | added | ZeroTheHero | My impression in speaking with UK colleagues is that there are no really permanent positions in the UK system, inasmuch as your unit can be unilaterally closed by admin with consequent redundancies. Did I misunderstand? | |
| Feb 8, 2022 at 19:36 | comment | added | Noah Snyder | I wanted a place that was small but actually secretly a nice place to live, and also where people might actually have some idea where it is even if they're not USian (so having Iowa in the name is a plus). Thought about using my own town (Bloomington) as an example, but then it makes it sound like it might be a decision I actually made. I have had offers in neither Iowa City nor any of the schools in London, but have visited both! | |
| Feb 8, 2022 at 18:04 | comment | added | Jon Custer | Well, everyone knows that River City is where the real trouble is... | |
| Feb 8, 2022 at 17:15 | comment | added | Dave L Renfro | one in Iowa City -- I can't help but wonder how Iowa City as an example came about ... :) | |
| Feb 8, 2022 at 16:21 | history | edited | Noah Snyder | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Feb 8, 2022 at 16:16 | history | answered | Noah Snyder | CC BY-SA 4.0 |