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Jan 28, 2022 at 0:30 comment added Lodinn I'm admittedly biased - wages in academia here are barely livable so working in academia AND in the industry or freelancing at the same time is rather the norm... And the industry doesn't seem to care about the PhD any much; it is only concerned with you delivering results. Now THAT is a marketable skill.
Jan 28, 2022 at 0:25 comment added Lodinn @AlexanderWoo Fair enough, one would need to settle down ten years after the PhD, but with these ten years of work experience, would one also not be better equipped to do so? Similarly, leaving academia does not necessitate a fresh start - some people do side gigs in the industry R&D while still in academia. A sanity check of "will my skills still be marketable enough to feed myself and (if applicable) my family in ten years" is much needed as early as possible, of course.
Jan 28, 2022 at 0:09 comment added Alexander Woo @Lodinn - Permanent jobs, tenure track or not, are getting lots of applications. Temporary full-time positions also get a fair number of applicants, and there is a marked bias in hiring towards people who got their PhDs somewhat recently. Ten years past PhD, you have to either get a permanent job, which has 500 applicants, or you can try to live on part time jobs that pay very poorly, or, as most people in this situation choose, you can leave academia and start over in a new career field.
Jan 27, 2022 at 23:20 comment added Lodinn @AlexanderWoo In this job market, landing a permanent position as a young academic might not be the greatest option indeed, but that doesn't mean "temporary" positions should not be considered. Now, in the US it might be different but the fabled tenure track is not the only good career opportunity at or around academia unless one goes the purist route.
Jan 26, 2022 at 18:41 comment added Alexander Woo Nope - all permanent academic jobs are hard to get nowadays. I would guesstimate Grinnell College got somewhere between 500 and 1000 applicants for their job. Admittedly, that might be considered prestigious by some measures.
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