Timeline for Is this plagiarism or common way of expression?
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| Jun 16, 2021 at 5:37 | comment | added | qwr | I have had times where I composed a tune I thought sounded good, only to realize it was an unintentional copy of a song I had heard days earlier. So what about the case where I read a paper a few months ago and inadvertently copy some ideas, genuinely believing I had come up with them myself? | |
| Jun 15, 2021 at 20:22 | comment | added | Crates | I am very curious how tools like GPT-3 will change the way we think about plagiarism. It can ingest any document and rewrite it in different words while maintaining the premise and structure of the original. Now that this is possible, what does it mean for the concept of plagiarism: should new research be mandated to make completely original claims? Will it be possible to create tools that determine the originality of sentiment and theory, independently of the words used to convey the message? I believe that it will be possible, and even inevitable, in the next few years. | |
| Jun 15, 2021 at 18:13 | comment | added | Wolfgang Bangerth | I was really just lawyering around words. "conscious act" sounds a lot like "with intent", but no intent is necessary for plagiarism. But that's nitpicking, @buffy's answer is just fine as is. | |
| Jun 15, 2021 at 14:28 | comment | added | Andrew Jaffe | I think Buffy and @Wolfgang are probably talking about different things. If you read a paper closely, and then use many of the same phrases to describe the same ideas, it is absolutely plagiarism, even if, for example, you did the writing a few days later and didn’t realise you were doing so. However, if you never read the original paper, and (somehow) just happened to use the same (long and complex) phrases to describe the same ideas it isn’t plagiarism. Of course the latter is probably very rare (except for incidental amounts text as in the case here!), and also very hard to prove. | |
| Jun 15, 2021 at 13:25 | comment | added | user128581 | @Buffy For the UK, Advance HE's guidance on plagiarism makes it clear that intent is not necessary for a finding of plagiarism, although the absence of intent may be a mitigating factor leading to a reduced penalty. | |
| Jun 15, 2021 at 11:11 | comment | added | Chris H | When a human marker is prompted by TurnItIn, this is definitely correct. If your work gets an otherwise borderline score it will take more of the marker's time (but this is common when marking non-native speakers who tend to use wording they've picked up in cases like this. The one problematic situation is the - thankfully rare - one where automatic similarity scores are used as a metric rather than a tool | |
| S Jun 15, 2021 at 8:50 | history | suggested | Cody Gray | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
Fix typo (and also add explicit referent to slightly increase clarity and make the edit more significant)
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| Jun 14, 2021 at 23:41 | comment | added | Buffy | @WolfgangBangerth, actually I meant what I said. You can't "plagiarize" by accident. It is something you "do", not something that "happens". Leibniz didn't plagiarize Newton since Newton hid his work on the Calculus. The work was equivalent, but independent. IANAL, but I think fraud also requires intent under the law. See: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraud | |
| Jun 14, 2021 at 23:17 | comment | added | paul garrett | Indeed. I do assume that only a smallish minority of students would (deliberately) plagiarize... and, then, these "turnitin games" make other students crazy for no good reason... A large waste of mental energy ... and self-esteem, too. | |
| Jun 14, 2021 at 23:12 | comment | added | Wolfgang Bangerth | "plagiarism is necessarily a conscious act" -- that sounds like too strong a statement. It isn't just plagiarism if someone is out to commit plagiarism, just like you're not only committing tax fraud because you were planning to commit text fraud. The next sentence clarifies what I know you want to say, though. | |
| Jun 14, 2021 at 23:01 | history | answered | Buffy | CC BY-SA 4.0 |