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Mar 2, 2021 at 13:32 comment added Buffy @Araucaria-Nothereanymore. that phrasing was directed at the student. The act of writing out the lecture is a start at learning, provided you capitalize on it. I studied (long ago) under this regime and don't recall a professor ever reading from notes while copying to the blackboard. Yes, their back was toward the students unless they were interrupted, but because they were both writing and speaking. But the after class activities are also needed.
Mar 2, 2021 at 13:09 comment added Davor Sorry, but this requires some massive citations, especially parts like "Note that watching lectures (say on the internet) without active participation is almost completely ineffective for most people". To me this answer reads just as defending shitty outdated practices.
Mar 2, 2021 at 3:42 comment added user96809 I don't quite understand why you say it is a good start to learning given the particular details given, for example "90% of the lecturer's speech is reading out the notes aloud while facing the blackboard"? (What might a bad start to learning look like??)
Mar 1, 2021 at 4:26 comment added WestCoastProjects Does not work for some of us. I could either listen to and reflect on the lecture or write it down: getting both was not happening. In math it had to be thorough since a missing step could later leave me lost. I had poor handwriting so it was extra effort just to make it intelligible even to myself. Nothing left over for learning. I would instead listen/reflect/ (sometimes ask questions) and then as far as the notes .. hope for the best .. Translation? Read the text - which rarely covered all of the lecture material - and/or hope I could cheat in a sense by copying a friend's notes.
Mar 1, 2021 at 3:56 comment added Jon Custer For me, the act of physically writing the notes was key when I was younger. That was what it took to get the content into my brain. I then could remember it, visualizing the page it was written on. I then never actually went back over the notes to review - my time was better spent (to me) looking at other problems, particularly how other authors than our textbook approached things, to compare and contrast. There is research showing that actively writing notes results in better learning that having handouts given to you.
Feb 28, 2021 at 22:34 comment added Robbie Goodwin Note-taking engages three sight, sound and feeling which is surely no less useful than the more modern method of teachers using hand-outs. What's in between?
Feb 27, 2021 at 17:23 comment added fedja We learn by actively engaging the brain. Great that somebody is saying that. In my student days, we all learned the old-fashioned way and the lectures were slow enough for me to simultaneously a) listen, b) write down and c) comprehend and reprocess the material (so I was anticipating what's coming next except for a few really surprising twists in the proofs). That mode required some effort on both my and professor's side and I asked questions immediately when I felt somewhat lost, but otherwise I didn't need either an eye contact, or any of modern flashy props; the flow was perfect.
Feb 27, 2021 at 16:51 comment added Ian Sudbery I think this is a good take for most lectures. In particular, I think trying to work out what the key points or, or important parts is at least partially an active activity. Things are turned from words to meaning, and then back into words on the way back to the page. However, does this transfer to math? Presumably it is important to get down all details of all parts of a proof, and in the processes, little processing goes on - I know that when I do this it goes straight from symbols on the board to symbols on the page without passing through meaning.
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