Timeline for One of the authors changed idea before submitting paper
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| Nov 22, 2020 at 8:57 | comment | added | Tobias Kienzler | @Wolf Your comment begs the question whether he became so powerful and famous by tricking others the same way... | |
| Nov 22, 2020 at 2:17 | comment | added | Wolf | Not only about losing a paper, but also about the ethics. On one hand, we worked hard to do the paper and it is right to publish it, on the other hand he’s still an author, although not the primary one, and we need his approval to submit. | |
| Nov 22, 2020 at 1:24 | comment | added | gnometorule | @Wolf: I assume the issue you’re concerned about is to lose a publication. It was my understanding that the professor you’re talking about was blocking you others from publishing. If he’s not, and ok with a mere acknowledgement, that strikes me as fine. If he blocks you from publishing, then I’d still contact him after conferring with your other collaborators - or better yet, have someone more senior (I take it you’re a Ph.D. student or postdoc) talk to him - and proceed as above, having a civilized conversation with him. Also, discuss with your PI/Ph.D. advisor first. | |
| Nov 21, 2020 at 22:58 | comment | added | Wolf | Let’s say that I am the first author, I did most of the job, and the idea came to another professor, not the blocking one. Still, he gave a relevant contribution in terms of advice and experience. He’s quite a powerful and famous academic though, that’s why I think he’s feeling entitled to do so.. | |
| Nov 21, 2020 at 22:30 | comment | added | gnometorule | @CaptainEmacs: Agreed. When talking to their co-author, I would not mention plagiarism anyway, or at least not at this point should it apply (hard to say given the information we have). It’s always best to try to stay as amicable as possible. The other authors should highlight that it’s just bad style and that their joint work should lead to a joint publication, maybe subtly indicating how such behavior makes people less likely to ever want to collaborate with him. It’s rude and selfish. | |
| Nov 21, 2020 at 22:04 | comment | added | Captain Emacs | Maybe the relevant idea was originally a contribution by the blocking author's one, in which case it's not strictly plagiarism, and it shouldn't be used as an argument if this is the case. Still, destroying a paper written with colleagues because it will damage their future work is pretty bad stuff as it goes. | |
| Nov 21, 2020 at 21:51 | comment | added | gnometorule | @lighthouse: I had to read this twice. :) Yes, that is correct. It just makes the situation more unsavory. | |
| Nov 21, 2020 at 21:14 | comment | added | lighthouse keeper | Good answer, but the "blocking the joint work" part would not affect whether it's plagiarism or not. | |
| Nov 21, 2020 at 20:28 | history | edited | gnometorule | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Nov 21, 2020 at 20:27 | comment | added | Buffy | Probably not "borderline" at all. | |
| Nov 21, 2020 at 20:26 | history | answered | gnometorule | CC BY-SA 4.0 |