Timeline for Academic Dishonesty: Do cheating students learn from punishment? [closed]
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| Aug 25, 2020 at 14:08 | history | closed |
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| Aug 22, 2020 at 5:51 | comment | added | Solar Mike | Yes, of course students learn... They learn to cheat better next time. | |
| Aug 22, 2020 at 5:09 | answer | added | Daveguy | timeline score: 0 | |
| Aug 22, 2020 at 2:36 | review | Close votes | |||
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| Aug 21, 2020 at 23:19 | answer | added | wilkvolk | timeline score: 0 | |
| Jun 29, 2020 at 12:10 | comment | added | rayna | (relevant link) I see the biggest reason for such a punishment as deterrence. If the consequences of cheating were no worse than just having to, e.g. rewrite an exam without cheating so that their academic ability can be properly judged, then a lot more people would do it - there's no risk. But deterrence only works if you follow through with the punishment after the bad thing is done, regardless of if the punishment is otherwise useful. | |
| Jun 28, 2020 at 21:04 | comment | added | Dan Romik | @user138719 the rationale is explained in the linked question: the cheater’s assignment is not a reliable indication of their knowledge, therefore zero is the only grade that can logically be assigned. This is true regardless of any other considerations of punishment, deterrence, sending a message to others etc. | |
| Jun 28, 2020 at 21:00 | history | tweeted | twitter.com/StackAcademia/status/1277346054573260801 | ||
| Jun 28, 2020 at 20:50 | comment | added | Prof. Santa Claus | Students cheat out of shear desperation. People don't steal if they have a job and are able to buy food. Punishing them does not solve the actual cause of the problem. | |
| Jun 28, 2020 at 19:06 | comment | added | user138719 | @DanRomik The question you linked presupposes a usefulness of a failing-for-cheating policy, questioning whether it is proper to fail student A for helping student B cheat on their exam. I am trying to understand the underlying rationale of the failing-for-cheating policy: How, exactly, is it useful. | |
| Jun 28, 2020 at 18:53 | comment | added | Dan Romik | Related: academia.stackexchange.com/q/111407/40589 | |
| Jun 28, 2020 at 18:49 | comment | added | Dan Romik | Giving them a zero on the assignment is largely about preventing them from profiting from the cheating, and only to a lesser extent about punishment. It’s similar to how if someone steals money, the first thing the authorities will do when they catch them is take back the stolen money if they can find it. The official punishment (prison time etc) is separate from that. | |
| Jun 28, 2020 at 18:21 | comment | added | user138719 | @MassimoOrtolano I assumed as much, so I labeled this section "Scenario". | |
| Jun 28, 2020 at 18:13 | comment | added | Massimo Ortolano | "While you are required to report them to a student-affairs administrator": Beware that this is not universally true. | |
| Jun 28, 2020 at 17:47 | history | asked | user138719 | CC BY-SA 4.0 |