Timeline for Is it fine to use a startup as an affiliation?
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| Sep 25, 2018 at 11:34 | comment | added | cbeleites | I've asked a question how much of a connection between paper and institution an affiliation implies: academia.stackexchange.com/questions/117429/… | |
| Sep 25, 2018 at 10:12 | comment | added | user2768 | @cbeleites Should "a paper affiliation [signal] more than the mere employment relationship"? I've seen journalists explicitly disconnect the role of affiliations, e.g., by explicitly stating the author may have conducted the research independently of their employer. I've also seen authors make such explicit disconnections. Moreover, it is common to list a current employer, even when the work was conducted under a different employer (an acknowledgement to the previous employer might be included). | |
| Sep 25, 2018 at 9:26 | comment | added | cbeleites | ...disagreement, IMHO in the extreme case of disagreement about the (scientific) content of the publication the employer should have the right to not be associated with the project. I.e., as a coauthor, I can solve such disagreements by saying "Let's agree to disagree, you go ahead with the paper, but please, I'd like to not be associated with it in any way". The other authors would not have the right to put me on the coauthor list in that case. I see the affiliation question in analogy to that. | |
| Sep 25, 2018 at 9:22 | comment | added | cbeleites | I'd think that to forbid stating the mere fact of employment (linkedin, CV, ...) the employer would need to show very good reasons (and BTW, over here employees have right to get a certificate of their working performance from the employer [which we use instead of letters of recommendation] and that anyways states who the employer is). But IMHO a paper affiliation signals more than the mere employment relationship, I'd say it means that the employee did that work on behalf of the employer, and that the employer agrees with the content. And while the question here doesn't look like a heavy... | |
| Sep 25, 2018 at 8:17 | comment | added | user2768 | @cbeleites an employer might say "they don't want to have anything to do with it," but I'm unsure whether they'd have the right. For example, can an employer forbid an employee from listing the employer as such? On their LinkedIn profile, for instance. (Contractual) exceptions exist, e.g., some government employees, but what's the default? An author's affiliation is typically their employer. What rights do employers have to forbid employees stating their employer? (OT.The German system seems sensible: inventions are owned by inventors and sold to employers (if they want), in the default case.) | |
| Sep 24, 2018 at 19:14 | comment | added | cbeleites | ... But if the employer says they don't want to have anything to do with it, I don't see how the employer can be affiliation for the paper. The fact that the inventor/author will always stay inventor/author is "bound" to the person, not to their employer in any case. | |
| Sep 24, 2018 at 19:12 | comment | added | cbeleites | that depends a lot on legislation. Here in Germany, this is the general case in the sense that the legal default for both inventions and copyright-relevant IP is that as soon as it is relevant to the employer's business, it is theirs to exploit (including software written in the employee's free time!). The employment contract can assign these rights to the employee (highly non-standard), or the employer can declare on a case-by-case basis they don't want it. (In case of inventions: 3 weeks to decide) And there has to be fair compensation... | |
| Sep 24, 2018 at 17:55 | comment | added | user2768 | @cbeleites An employer can make many things happen, but I'd like to consider the general case. (To my knowledge, inventions are always owned by inventors, not employers. But, contractual clauses can be defined to enable sale of inventions to employers.) | |
| Sep 24, 2018 at 15:33 | comment | added | cbeleites | Extrapolating from that an employer can "set free" an invention the employee makes (at least that's how things work over here in Germany), I'd think they should be able to do the same with a paper. | |
| Sep 24, 2018 at 11:50 | history | answered | user2768 | CC BY-SA 4.0 |