Timeline for Can I legally omit the fact I hold a Ph.D. degree?
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| Mar 1, 2018 at 5:56 | comment | added | aeismail | But that’s a fundamentally different question than your original one. “Won’t consider PhD holders” is an informal “rule.” Hiding the previous degree is against admission policies because you’re misrepresenting yourself. It’s also a bad idea because you’re going to have a very puzzling application—schools will be curious why none of your references are recent, since you won’t be able to ask anybody from your first PhD program to offer a letter. | |
| Mar 1, 2018 at 5:27 | comment | added | BoltzBooz | @aeismil It's not about performance here. This is saying "whether you have good academic record or not, we won't consider you if you already have a PhD". Had this conversation with a professor who said a person who already holds a PhD is likely to quit when the going gets tough. Hence money spent to produce a PhD would have been wasted. Frankly, I understand this point of view as I know many that quit their program at different stages -they don't hold PhD yet were able to make the decision. | |
| Mar 1, 2018 at 5:14 | comment | added | aparente001 | I suggest you choose a second field that is not too close to the first. // How do you plan to finance the second PhD? | |
| Feb 28, 2018 at 22:29 | comment | added | aeismail | @Boltzmann: In part, it's because people might otherwise try to hide, for instance, poor performance in a previous program. They want to admit who they feel are the people who will benefit most (and benefit the faculty most) from the program. | |
| Feb 28, 2018 at 17:26 | comment | added | RBarryYoung | @JorgeLeitão The short answer is that receiving money on false pretenses may be fraud. Whether it actually is or not, only a lawyer could advise, but it very often is. | |
| Feb 28, 2018 at 12:10 | history | edited | aeismail | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Feb 28, 2018 at 12:01 | comment | added | BoltzBooz | @MaartenBuis, My second question was on the latter. I only just wanted to understand the reason behind not considering a PhD for admission because here in Hong Kong, professors would gladly take up someone with advance research experience for publication purposes. I have already known the implications of that from previous responses. | |
| Feb 28, 2018 at 11:03 | comment | added | DonQuiKong | @Magicsowon actually that should trigger some kind of equality protection measure and not be that easy. In other words, it's unfair and unfair is bad. | |
| Feb 28, 2018 at 9:09 | comment | added | user21264 | I've seen people with PhDs in US. I'm not sure how the admission in US works, but if you can convince a professor you can do postdoc work for student money, the chances are high to get the offer. | |
| Feb 28, 2018 at 9:03 | comment | added | WoJ | Would that also cover "lying by omission"? It is clear that claiming that you have a degree when you don't is an obvious offense. Not providing one you have (because, for instance, it is not relevant in your opinion) is different. Except if the form requires you to list all your degrees. | |
| Feb 28, 2018 at 8:18 | comment | added | Maarten Buis | @Boltzmann are you asking why lying has consequences when caught or why some universities don't like multiple PhDs? The former seems self evident. The latter is probably because a PhD is seen as vocational training for researchers (they wouldn't put it that way, but that is what it is). If you have one PhD then you should have a sufficient understanding of that process, so an additional PhD has little added value, and from a society point of view you get a bigger payoff by training a new PhD. | |
| Feb 28, 2018 at 7:58 | comment | added | Jorge Leitao | Could you clarify why not fulfilling the admission process makes it illegal? I always assumed that these two things are not directly related, but maybe in US they are the same. | |
| Feb 28, 2018 at 7:55 | comment | added | BoltzBooz | Thank you for your response. It is really appreciated. If I may ask, do you have any idea why this rule is in place? | |
| Feb 28, 2018 at 4:36 | history | answered | aeismail | CC BY-SA 3.0 |