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Empirical evidence on the relationship between GRE scores and post-graduate performance There is a massive meta-analysis by Kuncel et al (2001) that empirically evaluates the correlations between various aspects of the GRE with multiple post-graduate performance criteria. Based on hundreds of studies and thousands of participants, GRE shows reasonable ...


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This is a good question. I have not been a fan of the GRE for 20+ years, although (through whatever luck I had a good-enough number on it myself that it didn't harm me...) many are. Having been on admissions committees and very much involved with graduate programs for 30+ years, I've had ample opportunity to see the (non-) correlation of success in graduate ...


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I think the answer to your question is this: How much do you value getting into graduate school versus how much do you value feeling like you are making a point? If you value feeling like you are making a point, by all means, pursue the Soft Activism. My guess is that it will come across to the department like a complaint that you didn't do well enough on ...


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This is certainly poorly and confusingly worded, but I think I can explain the reasoning based on similar issues I've seen with other departments. Here's my interpretation: The department expects every applicant to take the GRE subject test. However, they know that every year a small fraction of the applicants screw up and don't manage to register in time ...


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This may not exactly answer your question though... Below are "official" statistics for two group-one (?) pure math programs. Note that whether a score is "acceptable" might also depend on whether you are domestic student or not (based on the Ohio State data). (Since my reputation is too low to add more than two links in an answer, I can't provide more ...


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I am currently the Graduate Coordinator of my department (mathematics, UGA), and it is the season for me to get a lot of emails from would-be or might-be graduate students. Variations on "Will my application be competitive if I apply?" are the most common question I'm getting. It's okay to ask this question in the sense that it doesn't bother me at all and ...


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The GRE's effectively only good for one thing - getting admitted to graduate school. You will need it if the program requires it as part of your application package. Most US graduate programs do require it. If you study elsewhere then there's a good chance you don't need the GRE. About whether it's useful study material, note that the GRE is an exam, not ...


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These opinions are based on my discussions with faculty members involved in PhD admission committees. I think your crusade against the GRE will be more productive when you become the department chair or the dean of a school. Right now it just sounds like you're afraid. Among the options you've listed, I would recommend #3. You should know that the GRE ...


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I actually think that sending both tests would be detrimental for your application: it decreases the ratio of signal to noise in your application [opinion based] it shows the lack of improvement in your math and verbal scores over the year (which would be my interpretation if both results are sent) as opposed to your intent to show the will to improve ...


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In my department, GRE scores are used mostly as calibration for students who have good grades but are from universities/programs that we are not familiar with and whose quality we are therefore not sure about. For students with good credentials from strong programs the GRE is pretty much irrelevant.


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No doubt you can encounter useful words in novels, but you will encounter them at a much slower rate than with targeted study. If your goal is to learn GRE words quickly, a simple GRE study book would be more efficient. At the least, you should take a practice GRE test and see how you do on the vocab sections. If your vocab needs major improvement, ...


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Typically, GREs are required for entry to graduate school, not for being hired as a postdoc. GRE requirements are set by admissions committees who are collectively filtering a vast number of applicants with little background records. Postdoc hiring, on the other hand, is typically handled more as an individual professor hiring an individual employee. A ...


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I think it helps a lot here to understand the American cultural context, and in particular the liberal arts model of education that is quite common in the US. The GRE, and the departments and universities that care most about them, thinks of graduate training as pointing towards a career as a professor, not as a researcher. In the US, the majority of jobs ...


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ETS used to "flag" the scores of anyone who took the GRE under what they referred to as "non-standard test conditions". After an Americans With Disabilities Act lawsuit they settled and agreed to no longer flag scores, and according to their website: I heard that ETS is no longer flagging test scores that are reported to score recipients. Is this true? ...


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A couple of issues: Re Mr. Anglim's comment, a suspect issue re. any correlation between GRE scores and success in grad. school is that many people significantly improve their GRE scores by taking courses with prepping companies like Kaplan. So it seems GRE test does not measure any intrinsic ability/talent necessary for grad. school. Another issue is that ...


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I think the most important part of the ETS documentation page is their conclusion: ETS is committed to providing equal access to our assessments for all test takers. If you have been diagnosed with ADHD and believe you need accommodations for equal access during the standardized testing process, ETS will evaluate, individually, the information that ...


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Regarding research, I don't have possibility of doing any research and it is not a top priority here, so we aren't provided opportunities for research. For purposes of graduate school admissions, any self-directed intellectual activity counts as research. Have you contributed to any open-source projects? Have you written any Android or iPhone apps? Did ...


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The truth of the matter is that while you may find many schools that do not require the GRE, virtually every US school is going to require either the TOEFL or a similar test such as the IELTS. The reason for this is that one of the important criteria for admission to most US graduate programs is the ability to do coursework and interact with fellow graduate ...


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This may not be a direct answer to the question, but I think the fact that the question is asked reflects some basic misunderstanding of TOEFL and GRE. I want to point out the TOEFL and GRE are two completely different tests designed to assess different aspects of your language skill. TOEFL is a test for people whom English is not the first language, and ...


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English competency is not a field in which you can earn "extra credit." While it is possible that a graduate program may be moderately impressed by your enthusiastic creation of study materials (but you can't count on this: as a data point, I had never heard of an "anki deck" until now), such activities certainly do not directly compensate for low TOEFL ...


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I have a master's in applied math and want to get a PhD in pure math. I'm applying to universities that don't require GRE, GRE Subject and IELTS/TOEFL for fluent English speakers. From the context of the rest of your question, it seems clear that you are mostly applying to pure math PhD programs in the US. But in that case: more than half of these programs ...


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Okay, here's some advice: I like that you have an ambitious, but clear, long-term goal: to work at NASA's JPL. That puts you far ahead of many PhD program applicants in a very important aspect. Getting into Caltech's PhD program seems like a less realistic goal to me, honestly. They have one of the US's very best programs in CS/EE. Very top programs ...


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Although not a direct answer to the question, there is a third option: Take the October test on standby From the ETS website: Standby testing may be available if sufficient space, test materials and staff are available at the test center. If you'd like to attempt to test as a standby, report to the test center by 8:15 a.m. with: a completed ...


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Whether a department will read your file if the scores are low depends on the department. My department generally would, but others do not. While your work to help other students studying for the GRE is admirable, it will probably carry very little weight. Your weak English fluency is evident in the title and body of this question, and departments may ...


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Many of the premises of this question are fundamentally wrong. The GRE is not a good predictor of university success and does not measure someone's ability to do research. You’re also ignoring the plethora of people in the opposite position, who demonstrate good skills on a day to day basis at school but test poorly or had a fluke or didn’t get any sleep the ...


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@Jonathan, if you were to ever come to the other side, you will see a great number of glowing applications from top students of the top university in Bolivia or Madagascar. How do they fare compared to the top student of the top university of Idaho? Or a top student from a mediocre university in Massachusetts? If you admit grad students planning to use them ...


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(Some) US departments seek to maintain a critical mass of US students. (I expect that) such departments accept a critical mass of US students - the best that they can get - and then accept some number of international students to fill up their ranks - the best that they can get. Since international students generally score higher on standardized tests such ...


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One of the most valuable things you can get from a site like this is honest feedback from academics who do not know you personally. Because you are applying to a PhD program in English and claim to have a very strong writing sample, I think it is absolutely appropriate and on-topic to discuss the impression your writing makes. So I will begin with that. ...


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I am surprised, but this does appear to be true. From the ets website we have the following: ETS also makes available test-taker photos and essay responses on the Analytical Writing section of the GRE® revised General Test to designated score recipients as part of an institutional portal. Photos and Analytical Writing essay responses of all individuals ...


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I believe the answer is No. From GRE Subject Test Web Page Dismissal from a Test Center ◾Using any aids in connection with the test, including, without limitation: mechanical pencils, mechanical erasers, pens, pagers, beepers, digital watches, calculator, ...


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