I am going to start a postdoc at a Dutch university. This is my second postdoc, and my contract says I am on salary scale 10, level 8. I am assuming that they counted 5 years of PhD and 3 years of my first postdoc to arrive at the level 8.

However, I took more than 5 years (actually closer a decade) to finish my PhD. Also, I had a couple of short-term bridging postdocs over a year, before starting my first postdoc. Do these years not figure in the determination of level on the salary scale?

If there is anyone familiar with Dutch universities' salary scale, I would appreciate any feedback. I wanted to ask here before contacting the university, so as to not sound demanding to them.

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    The level is normally calculated as 5 + years of experience as postdoc. How long it took you to finish your PhD is not relevant. – Niko Feb 25 '16 at 7:36
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    @Niko can you please post your answer as an answer? – ff524 Feb 26 '16 at 11:09
  • Your scale is pretty good and fair. Don't bring it up to them. – PsySp Mar 25 '17 at 0:19

I'm post-doc'ing at CWI now; it's not a university but I'm sure it's the same pay scale - I'm also on scale 10. What I can tell you is:

  • Your slot/rank on the scale is, AFAICT and as @Niko suggests, equal to SOME_CONSTANT + calculated years of experience after the conclusion of your PhD. It doesn't matter what happened before you concluded your PhD. However, I got started on level 9, having only 3 years of calculated experience. So I can't verify that SOME_CONSTANT = 5. Or maybe it's an NWO-vs-universities thing.

  • The calculation of the number of years of experience is to some extent negotiable. In my case, I got my 3 years in industry after my PhD counted as 3 years of experience; and it was not clear from the get-go that this would indeed be the case.

Finally, I've not actually read it, but perhaps the collective employment agreement for Dutch universities has the official wording on this matter. (I've linked to the 2015-2016 version but I don't think this point has changed.)

  • SOME_CONSTANT is NOT always 5. I was also in same situation: 4 years PhD + 2 years PostDoc before going to NL for a 2nd PostDoc and I got initially 10-6 scale. I think SOME_CONSTANT = 5 if #_YEARS_OF_PHD >= 5 otherwise is equal to the # years of PhD. That OP got 10-8 scale is pretty good. – PsySp Mar 25 '17 at 0:17

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