I’m a senior in my final year of a B.S. degree in Engineering in the United States. One of my professors is in a geriatric state (he is not tenured). His class is largely themed around student presentations which form the core curriculum and all material tested on exams.

Unfortunately, the professor often falls asleep during these presentations which he should be grading as they are delivered. He does very little to facilitate discussion in class. When he generates the exam, he often just reviews the slides and picks out extraneous details for questions. To make matters worse, there is a small group of students who have taken advantage of the said professor’s poor proctoring skills and have used their phones to view the slides hence giving them a magnificent advantage over even the best students in the class.

I have already notified our department head, who is peripherally aware of the situation, and his superior, the college division head. However, they seemed concerned but have not taken means to solve or even observe any of the issue for themselves.

What else can I do to address such an issue?

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    I agree, its really a squeaky wheel gets the grease kind of issue. The other issue that complicates things is trying to galvanize some of my classmates into civic action. Many of them seem to take a similar opinion in our private conversations, they just don't want to go through the proper official channels. If more people would join me, a better outcome would result.
    – piman
    Commented Nov 1, 2015 at 17:47
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    record -> YouTube Commented Nov 1, 2015 at 18:32
  • Some of my classmates have photographic evidence of the behaviors I described, however official channels were not interested in viewing them.
    – piman
    Commented Nov 1, 2015 at 18:34
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    record -> YouTube — Careful. Recording someone without their explicit consent is illegal in many US states.
    – JeffE
    Commented Nov 1, 2015 at 23:53
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    Also, recording with a phone/etc. during a test may not be viewed as a good action.. regardless of what purpose it is for Commented Nov 1, 2015 at 23:59

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The first thing I want to say is that you should be careful with the information you provide on the internet. In ten minutes of routine searching I was able to determine the identity of your instructor and other information about him: e.g. he is 84 years old, that his highest degree is a master's degree, and that he is (as mentioned) not tenure-track at your institution. Thus you have publicly enough claimed that someone is senile. That opinion is yours to express...but it is not very nice. If you have not already had at least one conversation about the instructor himself about what you find unsatisfactory about his teaching, then complaining about him to everyone is not an honorable thing to do. I think it would be better to remove identifying details from your profile.

Now moving on to your question: I think you have at least two issues here. The first is that you claim that rampant cheating will put you at a disadvantage in your classes with this instructor. The second is that you think the instructor is unfit to teach at your institution. These are pretty different: one of them is localized to a particular situation and is primarily about you. The other is a general problem and is primarily the concern of the institution. I would recommend decoupling these concerns at least in your own mind and thinking about how to pursue them separately.

As for the first concern: is the cheating you're describing taking place in a class you are now taking? Your question suggests that but doesn't quite say it, and in my internet research I couldn't find any courses that the instructor in question is teaching this semester. If yes, this is a pressing issue, and of course you should bring it up first with the instructor himself. Does he know that students are cheating by looking at their phones in class? What is his response to that? If he hasn't been informed of the cheating, it is not very reasonable of you to blame him for it. If his response is "I don't hold truck with those devilish pocket phones" then that's inadequate and merits escalation. It sounds however that you're trying to bring forth action on a more generalized "everyone knows this is happening" cheating situation that may not even be taking place this semester. That's going to be hard to do. You lament that many students complain about this but are unwilling to do anything formal about it. You're right to lament, because that probably will kill the matter right there. I am a university professor and I've had the experience of students who complained to me about cheating but were unwilling to take it any further. That was very unpleasant for me, because there was nothing I could do about it....other than make sure that the circumstances that allowed the cheating did not present themselves in the future.

In terms of your second concern: whether this man is fit to be an instructor at your regional campus of a state institution is primarily the concern of that institution. I am not trying to say that this is none of your business. What I'm saying is that it's more their problem than yours, and you should take the attitude that you are helping them out by informing them about it. Do you see what I'm saying? If you come to an administrator saying that a certain instructor is not fit to teach...and you are not asking for any personal reparations for that in your own coursework, then it puts a different spin on things that may make the administrator take it more seriously. (That's why I would consider separating out discussion of this with the cheating issue: if you discuss them at the same time, then it can look like you have a conflict of interest, because something good could happen to your course grade if the instructor's incompetence is recognized.)

In terms of informing administrators that the instructor is unfit to teach: you have to realize that this is a long game. It is extremely unlikely that someone is going to get pulled from teaching in the middle of a semester for reasons of "senility". Firing a faculty member -- even a temporary or untenured one, and especially someone who has been working there for many years -- is not something to be done lightly. You can't really know that the administration is not looking into this or will not look into this in the future. Maybe they are. However, in the absence of any positive evidence, yes, maybe they're not. In that regard Dan Romik's advice is on point: bring this up repeatedly. If other students feel the same way, get them involved. (If really no one other than you wants to get involved...what's up with that? It's worth thinking about.)

Another thing that students don't necessarily appreciate is that universities have limited resources, and the in current economic climate many academic programs are being held together with string and chewing gum. Every once in a while I get an evaluation from a calculus student saying something like "Dr. Clark knows his math, but I'm not sure if he's ready to teach UGA students." Which makes me smile a little bit: I was a tenure-track (now tenured) faculty member. Do the students think that teaching freshman calculus is a privilege only earned by the very best, and that some time in the penalty box would make me rethink the error of my ways? That's just not the way things work. At my university faculty members get tenured for excellent research and unproblematic teaching. Freshman calculus students are going to be stuck with my teaching -- which, according to student feedback, is below the departmental average -- for the foreseeable future.

At your institution I noticed that there are a lot of non-tenure track faculty, often without PhDs, teaching courses for majors. Your administration would certainly prefer if such courses were taught by people with PhDs: it would add considerably to its academic prestige. The fact that they have courses taught by non-PhD faculty probably means that they have limited resources and/or haven't had the chance to do enough hiring to correct the problem. To put it more starkly: if your octogenarian instructor gets released, who will replace him? If they don't have such a person, then they are probably working towards getting one and thinking that in the meantime he is a lot better than nothing.

I will end by saying: you are right to be concerned about this, and if what you say is true than in my opinion you are helping out your university by doing so. Good on you, and I hope you follow through with it. Definitely do not do anything like publicly shaming your university by uploading incriminating videos: that is not a step towards a solution of the problem.

Added: Based on information provided by the OP, I have changed my mind about who the faculty member is. I now believe he is 79 years old. Anyway, the point is that when you reveal your institution and department any complaint about faculty members is certainly not anonymous. Any slightly interested party can make a guess. Maybe they will guess wrong...which is not so great either.

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    "you have publicly enough claimed that someone is senile. That opinion is yours to express" -- unfortunately, it was expressed as a fact, not as an opinion. The question is actually defamatory, the only legal defense against which is a proof of truth. So, even more caution and editing is called for.
    – user6726
    Commented Nov 1, 2015 at 23:13
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    The instructor does have a Phd so the identity you have developed is incorrect. I have taken some of your suggestions into account. Thank you for the nice answer Pete L. Clark. I have no intention of uploading potentially upsetting material online, in fact I've advised other classmates not to use social media, such as snap chat or Yik Yak, many do not share my point of view in regards to this issue.
    – piman
    Commented Nov 2, 2015 at 1:54
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    @user6726: I think it is over the top to suggest that a student who calls their instructor "senile" could be the victim of a lawsuit. Anything is possible, but some things are very, very unlikely. If you google "senile rate my professors" you'll find that students say things like this about their instructors quite frequently. I will stand by my claim that they should not say them because it is not kind to do so, whether there is some truth to it or not. Commented Nov 2, 2015 at 2:45
  • I'll also say that I would not use the word "senile" in plain spoken language. My point of using that word is only to express with accuracy behaviors that are otherwise difficult to concise convey over the internet. It is not meant as a slur.
    – piman
    Commented Nov 2, 2015 at 4:04
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    @user6726: If you can show me a single instance of a student being sued for comments like this, I will further entertain this discussion. Commented Nov 2, 2015 at 6:40

The department head is the proper address to turn to. Nag them again. If they don't help, look for university-level resources to take your complaint to, e.g.: graduate student union, university ombudsman, graduate studies. Another option is to complain to student judicial affairs about the dishonest students. It's true the professor in his negligence is facilitating their dishonesty, but by complaining about the students (who certainly also deserve to be held accountable) you will set in motion an investigation that hopefully will lead to the professor being reprimanded as well. Good luck!


There is nothing that you can do.
There are more students than there are qualified instructors.
A University cannot fire an instructor unless they can find a better replacement.

As of the year 2015, roughly 1 in 3 Americans get baccalaureate degrees. Not so many Americans used go to college. Not only do 1 in 3 Americans get bachelor degrees, but the percentage keeps going up.

Suppose that there were only 50 high quality martial arts teachers on planet earth.

For purposes of this hypothetical scenario, also assume than each martial arts master takes exactly one student per year.
Unrealistic though it may be, students and teacher in thought experiment have a one-on-one relationship for one year. After one year, the student turns into Jet Lee and leaves. It is not necessary to train for 10, 20, 30 years.

If there are only 25 students per year, that's great.
If there are only 40 students per year, that works too. What if there are 10,000 students?

There are only 50 good teachers.

If there are a sufficiently large number of students, then some students will find themselves a charlatan.

As another analogy, when I was in high school school cafeteria sometimes offered a popular food item: the Chicken Parmesan. On most days, the cafeteria food was terrible. However, the percentage of students who liked Chicken Parmesan more than the usual fare was more than 50%. The cafeteria manager was not the sharpest tool in the shed. The cafeteria manager assumed that students ate the same number of meals each day no matter what awful slop was served. Well, if there are fewer plates of Chicken Parmesan available than there are hungry students, some of the students might end up eating something else; or in some cases, not eating anything at all.

There are more students than there are high quality teachers. In the long run, you can create, or train, more University professors. However, in the short run, you end up hiring people who aren't that great.

If you need 50 horses, but only 20 horses with good teeth are available, then you will probably end up buying some horses with rotten teeth.

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