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I have seen one extreme of the spectrum, where a person conducts great research without even attending college. For a student to become an independent researcher, how much is on the advisor's shoulder and how much on the student? I know the answers may be all over the map. Just curious what your takes are on this question. Anecdotes and personal examples are welcome.

I have noticed some professors are more successful in supervising students to become independent researchers (approximated by the number/ratio of alumni who land research jobs) than others, even though their research portfolios and student qualities are similar (e.g., in the same department). That's one reason I bring up this question.

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    This isn't a discussion forum; invitations for "your takes on this question" where "anecdotes and personal examples are welcome" are a red flag that this is not the right place to ask this question. It's too broad (there are too many possible "right-ish" answers), and it's opinion-based. – 410 gone Jul 22 '14 at 6:25
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    Questions asking for opinions or anecdotes are discouraged on this site. – RoboKaren Jul 22 '14 at 6:29
  • I agree with the comments but think that there may be a good (and on-topic) question close at hand. If the question were e.g. "How can an advisor best guide a student to becoming an independent researcher?" then I would be very interested in the answers (even though they would probably constitute various answers "takes on this question" and would be enriched by the inclusion of "anecdotes and personal examples"!). – Pete L. Clark Jul 22 '14 at 8:37
  • @EnergyNumbers So do you suggest I revise my question to be more specific and remove hints of discussion and/or opinion, or I submit a new question somewhere else? And where should it be? – sinoTrinity Jul 22 '14 at 19:27
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There are two major types of advisor approaches which I've encountered during my studies:

  1. Hands-off, abstract guidance only. Hint at which areas are interesting or currently active, but do not throw yourself into your student's work. Usually such advisors will gladly proofread the student's work for errors, but they rarely know what to do if a student gets seriously stuck. Advisor sessions may be spent discussing current trends, future work of either the advisor or the student or, in some cases, simply "life advice".

  2. Co-worker approach. The advisor treats his student as an equal and tries to immerse himself into the student's work (or vice versa). By having a lot of exposure to the advisor's routine (how he goes around solving problems, how much time he spends doing research, how he prepares for lectures, etc.), the teacher aims to guide the student by example.

These two approaches are often seen in combination (while the student may be treated as a coworker, he still is usually the one to do the typesetting, the programming, and other time-consuming tasks).

Personally, I prefer the second approach, which is likely because I am not that settled in the "theoretical research" routine. Some of my friends, who have known since their Master's studies what they want to do, are very enthusiastic about having a well known professor with the hands-off approach.

To answer the question about either approach fostering independence, I believe the hands-off approach leads to much larger independence as a researcher, but the coworker approach may lead to a much better work ethic (mirroring the professor), which is tremendously important in science.

It seems to me that students have a harder time successfully completing research (asking the right question, having the right insights, etc.) than being independent. Therefore I believe that student/advisor relationship does not need to promote "independence" in any substantial way.

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Pairing students and advisers with complementary goals, needs, and expectations is the key. If a student is already self-motivated, capable, independent, and has a fully-funded, well-conceived research project, then they can be paired with an adviser who gives little oversight. However, if a student is lacking in one or more of those areas, then they should be paired with an adviser who can support them and help them improve on their weaker skills.

References

Delany, D. "A Review of the Literature on Effective PhD Supervision" Centre for Academic Practice and Student Learning, Trinity College (2008).

Zhao, F. "Postgraduate Research Supervision: A Process of Knowledge Management." (2001)

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  • I don't see how could this adequately answer the question. – svick Aug 25 '14 at 13:10

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