I started my phd online previous year at new zealand. Due to the fact that they did not allow me to enter the country (like many others) I decided to apply for another phd in Europe. This is not a project based but a phd. I did not get any money from NZ (pay local tuition) but I get funding from European university. Since it is not guaranteed that I could continue or even finish my phd in new zealand while being present there. I told my supervisors and first they did not have any problem. But later on my supervisor in Europe push me toward sth like joint/dual/cotutelle program or whatever. My question is since my start NZ previous year and Europe this year is it possible to somehow do it? Two universities do not have anything like it before. Also, how about the degree? each one provides separate degree for me or it is written in the degree about it? Does anybody have any experience?

P.S. Please do not give me common answers like no two phds are unlikely or so on.

do not close this question the person who understands already understood. lets keep it open to get idea

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    so strange someone gives negative point. nonsense Mar 2 at 10:16
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    Can you clarify the question? You say "since my start NZ previous year and Europe this year is it possible to somehow do it?" -- what is "it"? Doing them both simultaneously (as was discussed here)? Or doing one degree with the participation of both universities? In any case: there are no hard-and-fast global rules about this kind of thing. Having an external collaborator or co-advisor is reasonably common; having a partial appointment in each school much less so. But your schools can agree to whatever they want.
    – cag51
    Mar 2 at 10:36
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    dowvoted, because of: "Please do not give me common answers". One can give whatever answer wants, as much as one can ask whaterver question wants.
    – EarlGrey
    Mar 2 at 13:35
  • No you cant give me any deviated answers. most of the times I see this. i asked clear question then someone told me why 2 phd? why that why this!! Mar 2 at 16:08
  • My question is so clear. please let people know about it to answer. you should let person who knows what cotutelle program is to answer:) Mar 2 at 16:11

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No two PhDs are the same.

It looks like you enrolled in the PhD in New Zealand. The fact they are not paying or whomever is paying you, it is your problem (it is a systemic problem , unpaid or underpaid PhDs are unfortunately very common) and if NZ uni has no issues with external, direct fundings, you are good to go.

So good luck with your PhD in NZ, you may have an external supervisor in Europe, it is a good thing, but your PhD is still based in NZ, since you pay tuition fees there.

  • I need these kind of answers Mar 2 at 16:08
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    Dear @AhmadTurani , please have a look here for an idea about how to estabilish a cotutelle: inf.ufrgs.br/~schnorr/thesis.html Your questoin is not very clear and you should take your time to calmly express yourself as clearly as possible (one of the fundamental skills to succesfully complete a PhD), an answer is as good as the question that is being answered, I am sure you can improve and good luck with your endeavours!
    – EarlGrey
    Mar 18 at 14:52
  • I have no idea what cotutelle is!
    – EarlGrey
    Mar 18 at 16:45
  • But you answer my question I thought you know Mar 18 at 16:45
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    there are too many details specific to the institutions involved. But a general primer can be found in the latest site I posted.
    – EarlGrey
    Mar 18 at 16:46

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