I went to do my postdoc (organic chemistry) in ICCAS Beijing, although I also had offers from other places. As soon as I arrived there, I was informed the professor had many unsubmitted works. After a lot of thought I stayed there because I had a good fellowship and the quality of the work impressed me (probably a wrong decision). I worked really hard for more than 2 years and completed a work (I thought) after which I had to leave for some family reasons. I wrote the manuscript and S.I and sent it to my professor but he is yet to publish the work. He always says he is very busy and some works needed to be done. I also suggested to perform any further experiments in PhD guides lab. However he does not do anything, publishing his PhD students work because he had to. And now he is saying- "very sorry" for the delay but still not doing anything. In the mean time I checked with many senior colleagues, all of them agreed the work is of good quality and should be published as soon as possible. I sent the work to my professor in early 2018 now its 2021. Should I try to publish it on my own keeping him as a coauthor? I was waiting till now because the issue of "recommendation". But, now it seems to me, my career in chemistry is over and want to publish the work for validation only. what should I do?
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6Have you asked the professor if you can go ahead and publish the work with their name on it (so that it does not cost them any time)?– LouicCommented Aug 24, 2021 at 14:23
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@Sursula Yes, I did several times. The only time it yielded a result when I added my Ph.D. guide as a cc in the email.He only forwarded the email to one of his student. And since then nothing.– SomjitCommented Aug 25, 2021 at 2:43
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Is arranging an in-person meeting to hash things out possible?– nick012000Commented Aug 25, 2021 at 10:54
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1As I said a meeting is pointless..he told me several times that he is sorry for the delay, he is very busy, will publish it soon and then nothing happens. This is the story if past three years.And now my opportunities are all gone.– SomjitCommented Aug 25, 2021 at 21:30
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3What do you mean by "publish"? Do you mean the professor should "write up the manuscript", or "read and give comments on a first draft", or "rubber stamp a mature draft for you to submit to the journal", or "take the existing manuscript file and submit it to the journal"?– AndrewCommented Aug 26, 2021 at 20:30
5 Answers
First, I don't understand why it is the responsibility of your professor to publish your work. Perhaps this is a local requirement, but it seems odd.
Second, you can't just add someone as an author without both their proper participation and their agreement.
Normally, though, if the work is yours then you can submit it. If it is joint work then all authors must agree, but any of them can actually do the submission.
I'm sure a busy prof who has no time to write a paper covering your work would welcome the opportunity to have someone else write it. Doing so isn't simply a matter of writing it and sending it in with the prof's name on it, but handing the prof a manuscript, asking for edits, revising, ...
You are asking them to devote not insignificant effort to what is clearly fairly low on their priority list. Yes, they've agreed to that, yes, it's long past due it goes one way or another... But some people are just terrible at time management (including myself). If that prof is anything like myself, don't read much into it - it's not malice or anything, it's just every time you remember to address that there's something even more urgent and important waiting in the backlog. And working on writing, while can be done quickly by an experienced person, requires a particular state of mind. Getting into that state of mind is valuable.
And honestly, if someone walked up to me and said "here, I've done some research, all you have is to publish it and you can have all the credit" - why'd I accept? It's not helping me further my own research and takes away valuable resources.
If you actually want it published at this point, handle it yourself.
It is important to quantify whether your ex-PI has done enough to justify a coauthorship, or whether they should be placed in the acknowledgements.
To be a coauthor, your ex-PI must fulfil all four of the following criteria by the Vancouver Convention:
- Substantial contributions to the conception or design of the work; or the acquisition, analysis, or interpretation of data for the work; AND
- Drafting the work or revising it critically for important intellectual content; AND
- Final approval of the version to be published; AND
- Agree to be accountable for all aspects of the work in ensuring that questions related to the accuracy or integrity of any part of the work are appropriately investigated and resolved.
Some journals and some universities have variations on these.
You will note that, actually, PI's should not qualify for authorships at all much of the time. I would suggest looking at point 1 closely. Did your PI make substantial contributions there? Did they make a substantial contribution to the conception of the study, data acquisition (i.e. lab work), analysis or interpretation? If they did not, then points 2-4 resolve themselves, because they are dependent upon 1.
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1I've seen the Vancouver Convention's criteria mentioned before, but never endorsed in my field (mathematics). I suspect the reason is the possibility that a perfectly good paper might have no authors at all under these rules. Commented Nov 11, 2021 at 18:09
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Maths has some interesting conventions. My friends who are mathematicians tell me that in pure maths it is gauche for a PI to put themselves on one of their students papers, and that normally papers are single author - the student. I know that some have been turned down for grants etc. on the basis that their H-index was too high. I believe in applied maths it is a bit different. Commented Nov 12, 2021 at 21:08
Publish it on your own. You only have one life to live, so stop worrying about what your professor might think. You're not doing anything wrong. You've worked so hard and that deserves recognition. Don't be ashamed to shine. So go ahead and shine!
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Please add further details to expand on your answer, in particular explaining how this is nothing wrong by academic authorship standards.– Community BotCommented Aug 27, 2021 at 5:31