Currently my literature surveys do not involve trips to the library and I am wondering if I am missing out on something important. What sort of material/knowledge can the library provide that I would miss on google scholar. Thanks
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4Perhaps a meeting with a CS librarian, then you'll find out why Google Scholar is not a good tool at all.– Penguin_KnightCommented Nov 22, 2013 at 17:23
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4Aside from the obvious advantage of having a research librarian on-staff, I find that when in a physical library, I will often make serendipitous discoveries while wandering the stacks in search of that perfect book or article.– J. ZimmermanCommented Nov 22, 2013 at 19:33
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10@Penguin_Knight: Say what now? Google Scholar is a fantastic tool! But like every other tool, it's stupid to rely on it exclusively.– JeffECommented Nov 22, 2013 at 23:02
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1@JeffE, I do respect your comment. I guess it depends on how we evaluate a tool. The librarians I talked to (n=3) all advised against using Google Scholar as if it is a journal database because the different indexing and searching mechanisms. That's where I come from when leaving the comment above. If one wants to, say, see what's going on out there generally, I guess Google Scholar is fine(?).– Penguin_KnightCommented Nov 22, 2013 at 23:17
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2Google Scholar isn't a good tool for systematic searches or anything, but that doesn't make it useless. It might only have 85% of the things you want to read, but it's easily the fastest way to find that 85% when you have a title...– FlytoCommented Nov 22, 2013 at 23:42
8 Answers
Almost none.
I recently wrote a research survey, while on sabbatical at an institution without a physical library, but with extensive electronic subscriptions.
I never missed having physical library access, even for papers dating back to the 1840s. (In fact, the historical literature was more likely to be freely available than papers from the 1980s.) Occasionally I had to use my home university's VPN to get access to a different subset of the electronic literature, and there were one or two books that I had to download via bittor—sorry, that I had to borrow from colleagues down the hall. Yeah, that's it.
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2I strongly concur, with some exceptions. Positive: journal volumes are no longer checked out, needing to be recalled and waited-upon a week or two. One doesn't need to stand at the photocopier... The negative: missing pieces are conference proceedings appearing as one-off books, that very often require physical access. MathSciNet is better than Google Scholar, for my purposes, though it is imperfect. Commented Nov 22, 2013 at 23:22
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2I'd have said that my "trips to the library" are usually electronic rather than physical. However, sometimes (rare, but happens) physical trips allow to search (electronic) databases that are accessible only from few computers there (and not via VPN). Commented Nov 24, 2013 at 14:12
My situation is different from JeffE's. I had been looking for a couple of old CS books (in automata and switching circuit theory) published in 1960's. I finally found them in an institue library. According to the librarian there, the two books I wanted to borrow had not been checked out for at least two decades.
This is just me. My research area is not very active. I wanted to find info about what was done in those books which were not cited in modern literatures. I knew the existence of the books because I saw them when I was a graduate student in 1970's.
If your research area is modern and active, I guess you don't need to go to the library. Internet would be good enough. By the way, my personal experience is that Google is sometimes better than Google Scholar.
A side note. My feeling of reading books in the library is different from staring at the computer screen.
Don't assume that a library is a building. Libraries provide the funding and infrastructure that lets you access online journals and databases, just as they used to provide you with hardcopies and card catalogs. If you think that Google scholar provides the same degree of access you are sorely mistaken. And no, I am not a librarian, but I am very grateful that I have access to a good library.
Now, the question of whether libraries should be forced to pay for access to journals is another question.
Most things can be found online, that's for sure. But the main problem is that we tend to stay in "our neighbourhood" because of that: we can only find what we are looking for while searching online resources.
If in another field researchers use a different wording for the same objects, we will never know because it is very hard to browse a large amount of papers very quickly online.
The interest of going in a library is that it is possible to crawl very quickly amongst dozens of papers from other fields, just looking for "oh, this curve looks just like mine" or "wow, but I know this equation". This way, with luck and persistence, it is possible to find new connections and/or new way of thinking about a problem.
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The interest of going in a library is that it is possible to crawl very quickly amongst dozens of papers from other fields Can you elaborate? Whenever I physically go to the library (fairly often), I almost never venture outside my field. I am much more likely to find things from other fields with online searches.– KimballCommented Mar 2, 2016 at 1:40
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@Kimball It is really about being proactive looking in other fields. For instance, if you work in game theory, you may crawl entire collections of microeconomy journals. It is far more efficient to do it by hand than downloading and browsing pdfs. At least I find it more efficient. Commented Mar 2, 2016 at 14:44
Library may allow you to access generally online resources behind the paywall.
In other words, while using printed material instead of online resources does not bring much benefit, some online resources (like scientific journals) are often paid, and you may need a library computer to get access to them. This is one of the reasons why you still may need to go to the library.
Of course, this is university dependent.
The advantages really depend on:
- your skills with search engines,
- the talent of your librarian.
The fact that you are only mentioning Google Scholar may suggest that you may extend your skills to other media. One single person is often affected by biases in his search. A librarian, who has experience, knows a lot of sources (some not public), has experience with many tools and more importantly, can reformulate a question with less domain-related biaises.
Physical sources are more trustful; you can check the authenticity of the information they hold since the author is always named, and so is the house of publication. All what is needed for the entire reference is shown at the beginning of the physical work; whereas, the electronic source is usually not authentic; the author can be unnamed, the house and the year of publication can be dropped, etc. additionally, reading a printed material is safer for the reader's eyes and nerves than reading on screen; the latter is evidently harmful.
A good library has subscriptions. Even though I am retired and 500 miles away from my universities's library buildings, these subscriptions are invaluable. (I can access them by Internet, of course.)
So: unless you intend to pirate everything you need, your library will be invaluable to you, too.