Whenever I've heard math professors talk about job prospects in academia, they indicate that the job market has gotten much tougher over the years. Is it true that it is harder now than it used to be to find a good position? If so, why is that?
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3Has it gotten tougher? I don't see anywhere near the panic I recall from the 1990s, with nearly monthly articles in the Notices of the AMS about the issue and the creation of the Young Mathematician's Network by those involved in job searches. But maybe you're talking about a more recent variation?– Dave L RenfroCommented Apr 20, 2016 at 19:32
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10Do you mean "is it harder to find a job now than in the 1950s"? or "is it harder to find a job now than in the 1990s"?– Tom ChurchCommented Apr 20, 2016 at 20:37
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17@DaveLRenfro You don't see anywhere near the panic exactly because people quit academia to find jobs outside before it becomes an issue; they already know. In the early 90's people somehow expected to land a tenure position anytime after the PhD and they started panicking when it didn't happen. Nowadays researchers don't even panic anymore, they know what it will be like already.– gentedCommented Apr 20, 2016 at 23:13
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18I'll comment is that in the department where I've been working for more than 20 years the candidates that we're hiring now a days have considerably more experience and stronger CV's than candidates that were hired 20 years ago. e.g. I was hired before I'd defended my dissertation and before I'd published anything. Today, the candidates that we hire have a numerous publications and at least a couple of years experience beyond the PhD.– Brian BorchersCommented Apr 21, 2016 at 0:11
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2Note also the influx of ex-Soviet mathematicians in the early 90s aiming for jobs in the US and Europe increased competition very suddenly.– David RobertsCommented Jan 16, 2017 at 7:49
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The number of tenured/tenure track faculty positions in the US has been on the decline in recent years, partly because of a substantial increase in the amount of teaching done by contingent faculty (adjuncts, full time instructors who aren't on a tenure track, and graduate student TA's.)
The number of PhD graduates in mathematics has been fairly steady at around 1200 per year. Most of these new graduates want to ultimately obtain a tenured faculty position, but there are only about 700-800 such positions available every year.
There's a clear inbalance here between the supply of new PhD's in mathematics and the number of desirable faculty positions that they can chase.
A good source of statistics on this is the annual survey done by the American Mathematical Society.
http://www.ams.org/profession/data/annual-survey/survey-reports
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2There's a clear inbalance that's more than one position for two graduates. A ratio that biologists could only dream of. I think that's quite sound knowing the high demand for mathematicians in the private sector. Commented Dec 27, 2016 at 11:49
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3I presume these numbers tell us only about the US number of successful PhDs. It should be noted that actual competition for positions probably involves slightly larger numbers competing for the same number of places.– Will RCommented Dec 27, 2016 at 13:57
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5@CapeCode High demand for PhD mathematicians in the private sector? In pure maths? Commented Jan 11, 2017 at 6:55
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I have an update about the numbers in this answer. It seems there are around 1450-1500 phds in math per year (not counting 500 stats PhDs). Unfortunately, the AMS survey combines math and stats, so it's hard to know what to make of "221 employed in PhD granting institutions" and "257 in other academic categories" because some of those will be stats PhDs. It's true that there have been around 800 tenure track math positions per year (and most go to postdocs not new PhDs): ams.org/profession/data/annual-survey/… Commented Mar 31 at 1:15
I agree with the earlier answers that the fundamental issue is an imbalance between the number academic positions and the number of people aiming for an academic career. However, there's some context that can help explain how things ended up this way. Everything I say will refer to mathematics in the U.S.; some parts certainly generalize beyond that, but I can't say how far.
It has never been truly easy to get a faculty position in mathematics, but during the period from 1945 to roughly 1970, it was easier than it ever had been before or probably ever will be again. There were huge increases in the number of college students, which required lots of faculty hiring, and federal funding for science increased dramatically (especially after Sputnik). Not everybody could get a great job, but lots of people got good jobs, and a successful grad student could reasonably expect to get at least an adequate job. This is not to say nobody fell through the cracks, but there was no concept of an oversupply of graduate students relative to positions. Instead, people worried about an undersupply.
One consequence is that the number of mathematics graduate students increased exponentially. Lots of universities created new graduate programs, or substantially scaled up existing programs. At the time this seemed like a great idea, because these programs were able to place their students in decent jobs, but when the market crashed the profusion of graduate programs led to a terrible oversupply. (It's difficult to kill a graduate program that's still attracting students, and student enrollment is far less sensitive to employment prospects than one might guess.) We're still suffering from this problem today, in that we have a stagnant academic job market but a system of graduate programs that evolved to feed a rapidly growing market.
The end of the golden age had several causes: the growth of universities flattened out, the economy weakened, and federal funding decreased. Several academic generations had become accustomed to a strong job market, and nobody knew quite how to react when it ended. Some people hoped it was a temporary aberration, which would soon return to exponential growth. Others recognized that the era of exponential growth was over, but hoped that an upcoming wave of retirements would open lots of positions. The net effect is that there was no coordinated response, and it took ten or twenty years before it became clear how the job market was going to evolve. The academic hiring turmoil in the 1990's basically amounted to the realizations that the system wasn't going to fix itself and that nobody else seemed capable of fixing it.
One consequence is that universities have gradually become more demanding in the experience they require, because they can. I know people who got tenure-track jobs in the 60's with no publications yet and without having been in charge of even a single class, but that's unheard of nowadays. These increasing demands put a lot of pressure on graduate students, who risk screwing up their careers if they aren't consistently and impressively productive.
The rate of increase is relatively slow, not clearly visible on a year to year basis, but it becomes clear on a scale of decades. The way the ratchet works is that once too many students adapt and start to meet or exceed the current requirements, universities can become even more selective and the difficulty goes up a notch. In an ideal world, this pressure would lead to increasingly talented and well-prepared generations of mathematicians. There's some truth to this, but unfortunately it's largely an arms race that punishes bad luck or inconsistency more than it rewards exceptional success.
A related consequence is that the job market has become more segmented, as the optimal preparation for different career tracks has diverged. Grad students sometimes imagine a prestige-based hierarchy of positions, with research universities at the top, teaching-focused universities and liberal arts colleges in the middle, and community colleges at the bottom, and they believe that even if they fail to get a job at one level of the hierarchy, they can surely find one in a lower level. They are then shocked to discover that it doesn't work that way: each career track has demanding expectations that don't overlap very much, and not many people can put together compelling applications of more than one sort.
I don't want to catastrophize here: the arms race in qualifications doesn't seem to be driving the fraction of people who get tenure-track jobs to zero. (See here for plenty of statistics. Long-term employment trends are slow and difficult to discern amidst the noise and economic fluctuations, but there certainly isn't a short-term collapse.) Instead, the primary factor in the worsening job market is the stress and difficulty of meeting the increasing demands.
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This is an excellent answer imo; and answers the hard part of the original question (why is that?) better than the most upvoted answer. 1. Punishment of bad luck/inconsistency seems very true and 2. The non-existence of a hierarchy of college positions is a really excellent point. Increasingly it has also spilled outside of academia, i.e.if you were unable to get an academic job, it used to be easier to just go and work in quantitative finance or technology, but these are of course increasingly deep specializations of their own with their own unique demands.– SBKCommented Oct 18, 2020 at 7:21
In Germany, increased funding of universities lead to a rise in non-permanent positions, so that nowadays a lot more postdocs compete for the same number of permanent positions.
Let me add a general comment: The specialty about a career in academics is that it (often) takes so many years until you reach a satisfactory (permanent, well-paid) position. People drop out of the process at all stages, and it is not always the good that stay and the bad that leave. On the one hand, you can easily fool yourself to be good enough because it is hard to compare and hard to get an overview. On the other hand, some good people do not like moving every two years until they find something steady, especially if they have a spouse that also tries to build a career. So the job market size in academics relative to the number of qualified applicants is very hard to estimate.
Departments are not growing as fast as they are all pumping out new PhDs that are looking for fewer jobs.
So being a superstar and having some luck will be a big factor.
This started circa early 70s and has continued in STEM fields since then.