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Nov 29, 2017 at 2:31 comment added aeismail Finishing user83582's comment: "choose an engineering discipline instead. So I did and I've never used it. "Vicious" might be a strong word, but certainly "self-serving" is apt, at least in my case. The school just wanted more engineering alumnae, who probably at the time made better money than statisticians."
Nov 29, 2017 at 0:22 comment added user83582 Regarding the use of "viciously lured", I agree that it's inappropriate to use the term by way of explanation, but I completely understand the OP's choice of the phrase. I work in data analytics, though my degree is in Chemical Engineering. As an undergrad I wanted to double-major in Computer Science and Statistics, and my advisor (the VP of Student Services) told me that my choice of majors wouldn't make any sense and the two subjects would never compliment each other, and further suggested that if I had the ability to get good grades in both of those subjects then I should . . . "
Nov 28, 2017 at 19:50 history tweeted twitter.com/StackAcademia/status/935596827524632576
Nov 28, 2017 at 19:10 comment added stefan @LordFarquaad By ''consequences'' I meant whether the intended consequences are physics consequences or not. I will learn many uninteresting things for the first cause but won't do much for the otherwise case. So, as I mentioned in my previous comment I should have used the word motive instead of consequences for clarity.
Nov 28, 2017 at 19:04 comment added stefan Just to clarify, as someone who has participated in toy-research, I do have seen the glimpses of the fact that you don't always end up doing something worthwhile. But, I am just saying that learning how a bridge works have no possible interesting consequence for someone who is narrowly interested in knowing how the event horizon of a black hole behaves. I will study something if the motive of the things is in the right place. That's what I want to express.
Nov 28, 2017 at 19:02 comment added stefan @LordFarquaad But then what do people want? Do they want me to say I will blindly do whatever I am entitled to do by the organization and forget the very core of scientific spirit--thinking about why you are doing something?
Nov 28, 2017 at 18:57 comment added Lord Farquaad @Dvij Well you don't always get to choose the consequences of the things you work on either. The way you've presented this is that you'd only work on something if you've deemed it worthwhile (it has an interesting consequence). As someone who's participated in research, I can tell you that at some point you'll work on something "not worthwhile". People selecting students for research know this too, and saying "no, but I think this project is interesting, I'll study it" isn't worth much.
Nov 28, 2017 at 18:44 comment added stefan @LordFarquaad It is not what exactly happened. The uninteresting things that I didn't learn didn't have any interesting consequences. I did learn many things that I find uninteresting during my projects in physics, e.g. uninteresting computer languages, that had interesting consequences, i.e. some nice physics result. I think I should emphasize this when I say I am willing to learn uninteresting things if they have interesting consequences.
Nov 28, 2017 at 18:40 comment added Lord Farquaad "Being interested in only theoretical physics, I didn't care much about perfecting the engineering subjects and this is reflected in my grades", "It might (wrongly) show that I would not study uninteresting things ... " Isn't that exactly what happened though? If you take this approach, you'll need to offer convincing evidence that you're now willing to put more effort into uninteresting topics. You spend an awful lot of time with research projects studying things outside your field (in CS at least, I dunno about physics).
Nov 28, 2017 at 16:41 vote accept stefan
Nov 28, 2017 at 15:14 comment added Jon Custer I did not make any such moral equivalencies in my statements. Certainly, should you let such perceptions into your statements of purpose that will likely not put you in a good light. Take heed of the note about blame-shifting indicated in an answer below.
Nov 28, 2017 at 15:01 comment added Jon Custer Well, how does one 'viciously' lure somebody?
Nov 28, 2017 at 14:58 comment added stefan @JonCuster Don't you think there is a difference between luring someone and threatening someone? I guess the whole point of luring is that one doesn't have to threaten the subject.
Nov 28, 2017 at 14:42 comment added Jon Custer Viciously lured? What, did a professor threaten to beat you up?
Nov 28, 2017 at 14:28 answer added user24098 timeline score: 25
Nov 28, 2017 at 13:02 history asked stefan CC BY-SA 3.0