Timeline for Postdoc that refuses to follow the terms of her contract
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Jun 20, 2018 at 18:56 | history | protected | Alexandros | ||
Jun 20, 2018 at 15:54 | answer | added | Scientist | timeline score: 1 | |
Jun 12, 2017 at 5:57 | vote | accept | Open the way | ||
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Jun 9, 2017 at 1:16 | history | edited | ff524 |
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Jun 9, 2017 at 0:18 | answer | added | libphy | timeline score: 2 | |
Jun 5, 2017 at 7:10 | answer | added | The New PI | timeline score: 4 | |
Jun 4, 2017 at 9:28 | answer | added | Sascha | timeline score: 0 | |
Jun 4, 2017 at 5:09 | comment | added | SSimon | I need to disagree @Greg, she got a scholarship from UNIVERSITY. | |
Jun 3, 2017 at 16:30 | answer | added | SSimon | timeline score: 26 | |
Jun 3, 2017 at 12:48 | comment | added | greenb | Does she attain any reportable research outputs in her independent work? | |
Jun 3, 2017 at 11:23 | history | tweeted | twitter.com/StackAcademia/status/870964157046280192 | ||
S Jun 3, 2017 at 9:42 | history | bounty started | Open the way | ||
S Jun 3, 2017 at 9:42 | history | notice added | Open the way | Draw attention | |
Jun 2, 2017 at 15:08 | comment | added | Greg | @DanFox I think we should recognize some shades here. Most fellowship and scholarship in my field, eg explicitly tied to other research project. Saying I do whatever I want because I am special is no way collaborative work or support other's work, and therefore against the very much the spirit of those fellowships. Also many of these contracts contain other responsibilities, not only just being pretty, but I guess there are exceptions. | |
Jun 2, 2017 at 7:01 | answer | added | aparente001 | timeline score: 7 | |
Jun 2, 2017 at 6:52 | comment | added | Dan Fox | A postdoctoral supervisor's primary responsibility is to help the postdoc develop into an independent researcher, if the postdoc is not already an independent researcher. The notion that a postdoc should just take orders and be another cog in a big machine is sad. So is the notion that a postdoc who independently obtains interesting results should add the nomical supervisor as a coauthor. | |
Jun 1, 2017 at 21:19 | comment | added | Open the way | it is paid by the university, but when you apply, you need to specify who will be your supervisor | |
Jun 1, 2017 at 18:33 | comment | added | Greg | I think there is a very important detail which is not clear: who pays her? Is it a fellowship tied to specific research project or grant? Is it an independent fellowship? Who is the boss, supervisor, etc on paper? | |
Jun 1, 2017 at 18:30 | comment | added | Greg | @NickS in short: Math is very different. Almost all other STEM subjects you get a grant, a job, a salary to perform a specific research. Your supervisor pays you from her/his grant to help a specific project. Special snowflake grants are rare, and even those have some obligation to do research along a topic and to make progress reports to supervisors. | |
Jun 1, 2017 at 14:50 | answer | added | Walter | timeline score: 12 | |
S Jun 1, 2017 at 12:53 | history | suggested | sgf | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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Jun 1, 2017 at 12:37 | comment | added | Nick S | @sgf If they work independently well and produce result, then yes. But again, this probably depends of area. Math is different. | |
Jun 1, 2017 at 12:28 | comment | added | sgf | @NickS You would employ someone to contribute to your group's research lines and be fine if they don't even tell you what they're working on? | |
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Jun 1, 2017 at 12:03 | comment | added | Nick S | In mathematics, a Postdoc position is supposed to be the time when the researcher starts working independently. I don't know how it is in your field, but for me a postdoc wanting to work independently would be a good postdoc. | |
Jun 1, 2017 at 9:51 | comment | added | Nobody | Short answer: Business is business. Friendship is friendship. Don't mix them up. | |
Jun 1, 2017 at 9:47 | answer | added | Dirk | timeline score: 22 | |
Jun 1, 2017 at 9:47 | comment | added | posdef | There is a point to what @CapeCode is trying to say here, I think. Your question is a superposition of two questions: 1) how to deal with superiority/leadership with a friend (or something along those lines). and 2) how to deal with a postdoc who doesnt follow the contract. The first point is very personal, whereas the second can easily be dealt with by a personal meeting, or via the HR department if you wanna go the more formal route. | |
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Jun 1, 2017 at 6:18 | history | edited | Open the way | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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Jun 1, 2017 at 5:52 | history | asked | Open the way | CC BY-SA 3.0 |