Timeline for What incentives does an advisor have to help PhD students graduate in a timely manner?
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| Nov 24, 2017 at 11:37 | comment | added | Ka Wa Yip | I am rather concerned with advisor forcing me to graduate as he constantly turned down the research topic I want to pursue and said I have to focus on my thesis, the topic of which I hate and have absoluely no freedom to choose. | |
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| Apr 3, 2016 at 11:19 | vote | accept | ff524 | ||
| Jan 10, 2016 at 3:43 | comment | added | E.P. | I'm mostly bothered by the fact that any useful answer will necessarily be very localized to a specific country and most probably a specific institution or funding stream, i.e. it won't be particularly useful. As it is, the universal aspects are close to platitudes ("it's just nice to do it") and that's what most of the answers have stuck to. It's a nice thing to ask, but I don't see this as a useful question, or as a useful model for questions to be asked on this site. Keeping the question to tangibles and asking for per-country aspects would help, but it's probably too late now. | |
| Jan 10, 2016 at 2:11 | comment | added | ff524 | @E.P. I did specify in my post that I'm asking about programs "where PhD students can potentially hang on for several years past the mean time-to-degree" i.e. I'm excluding programs where if "you haven't submitted by 4 years you're out." If you can think of specific details that are necessary to answer the question, please ask for them. | |
| Jan 10, 2016 at 0:35 | comment | added | E.P. | I don't really see how it's helpful to ask this in a general sense, when this is strongly dependent on location and on the specific institution. The difference between the US (where universities are happy for students to go on for seven years or more) and the UK (where it's a pretty universal rule that is you haven't submitted by 4 years you're out unless you can show special circumstances) is staggering. The incentives can vary from "none" to "graduate them on time, or not at all". Given this, I'm surprised this comes from a moderator. | |
| Jan 9, 2016 at 23:53 | comment | added | DetlevCM | At my (former UK) University a simple but drastic measure: You have three years to finish a PhD, you get 1 year overtime. If you have not submitted within 4 years you have failed your PhD. (There are extenuating circumstance which I believe can buy you another 6 months or so - but these will need to be substantial enough and have to go to admin.) | |
| Jan 9, 2016 at 7:01 | comment | added | Salvador Dali | @CapeCode why is this exaggerated? In some fields (CS, AI, ML) the difference between a phd stipend and an average salary in industry can be 4-5x. So no surprise that someone would like to build you a robot for a taxi driver's salary. | |
| Jan 8, 2016 at 19:20 | answer | added | Peter Green | timeline score: 7 | |
| Jan 8, 2016 at 18:55 | answer | added | algorithmic_fungus | timeline score: 0 | |
| Jan 8, 2016 at 15:16 | comment | added | Jon Custer | Also, there is a strong (negative) bias in the questions on this site: nobody comes asking how come their adviser agrees that they are ready to graduate... However, I have seen the 'cheap labor' effect in action. I also recall a student who ended up with a two-volume thesis - in that case the committee berated the adviser for keeping them around so long, but the reply was that the student was on (well-) paid leave from a company and chose to stay as long as they could, doing interesting stuff, before returning to work. Clearly, mileage varies... | |
| Jan 8, 2016 at 12:32 | answer | added | Stephan Kolassa | timeline score: 5 | |
| Jan 8, 2016 at 11:04 | answer | added | user4512 | timeline score: 5 | |
| Jan 8, 2016 at 9:50 | answer | added | Corvus | timeline score: 29 | |
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| Jan 8, 2016 at 8:32 | answer | added | Cape Code | timeline score: 5 | |
| Jan 8, 2016 at 8:19 | comment | added | ff524 | @CapeCode I agree it may be exaggerated, although I do know of a few specific instances where an advisor definitely held on to a student too long. My own personal experience is the opposite - my advisor very strongly encourages us to graduate on time. My motivation in asking this question is to find out if there's any reason he's so eager to get rid of us :) | |
| Jan 8, 2016 at 8:14 | comment | added | Cape Code | A lot of students misinterpret criticism of their work, or the consequence of their own procrastination for their adviser's conspiring to take advantage of them. I think the "cheap labor" meme is vastly exaggerated. | |
| Jan 8, 2016 at 3:21 | answer | added | aeismail | timeline score: 17 | |
| Jan 8, 2016 at 3:18 | comment | added | ff524 | @cagirici Sure, if you have an answer about how an advisor can benefit from their PhD students graduating on time. (It's always a good idea to state your context in the answer.) | |
| Jan 8, 2016 at 3:17 | history | edited | ff524 | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Jan 8, 2016 at 2:18 | comment | added | padawan | Is an answer from my perspective acceptable for you? I can provide some observations about PhD studentship in Turkey. | |
| Jan 8, 2016 at 1:49 | comment | added | Olorun | IMO, this topic feels like it is especially geared towards experimental fields. In the mathematics department I attend, I haven't heard about students staying on for longer than necessary for finishing their PhD thesis. Most of the students who stayed longer did so because they were finishing up a paper with their advisor and/or waiting for applications. I think that each (well, maybe not all..) graduated student is a valuable extension of the professors network to other universities/companies, so that would be an incentive to let students graduate on-time. | |
| Jan 8, 2016 at 1:10 | history | asked | ff524 | CC BY-SA 3.0 |