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Motivation

I'm soon going to start a Post-Doc in the Netherlands. The labor laws are different from where I did my Ph.D. work; the academic culture is somewhat different; the unionization situation is different; etc.

So, I've gotten the informal offer over email, and I'm now expecting the formal contract offer. I already have a copy of the collective employment agreement which covers post-doctoral researchers where I'll be working.

When I did my PhD, like I said, the situation was quite different - plus, I didn't actually get to sign any contract and no bargaining was involved. But now there might be some bargaining (although I'm not sure to what extent as employment conditions are mostly standardized).

The actual question

My question is: What are, in your experience or opinion are points that are possible/useful to bargain about in the individualized contract? If you can, please give an example of better vs worse options for the same point. Long lists with less details are also quite ok by me :-)

Examples

(some more academia-specific and some more generic)

  • The extent to which the academic institute controls copyrights to your discoveries: Partial copyright in your works / Institute controls everything / Automatic publication under free license.
  • The extent to which you can be required to perform duties other than your chosen specific personal research: Not at all / At their discretion / Upto x% of the work week
  • Funding for attending conferences abroad

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Motivation

I'm soon going to start a Post-Doc in the Netherlands. The labor laws are different from where I did my Ph.D. work; the academic culture is somewhat different; the unionization situation is different; etc.

So, I've gotten the informal offer over email, and I'm now expecting the formal contract offer. I already have a copy of the collective employment agreement which covers post-doctoral researchers where I'll be working.

When I did my PhD, like I said, the situation was quite different - plus, I didn't actually get to sign any contract and no bargaining was involved. But now there might be some bargaining (although I'm not sure to what extent as employment conditions are mostly standardized).

The actual question

My question is: What are, in your experience or opinion are points that are possible/useful to bargain about in the individualized contract? If you can, please give an example of better vs worse options for the same point. Long lists with less details are also quite ok by me :-)

Examples

(some more academia-specific and some more generic)

  • The extent to which the academic institute controls copyrights to your discoveries: Partial copyright in your works / Institute controls everything / Automatic publication under free license.
  • The extent to which you can be required to perform duties other than your chosen specific personal research: Not at all / At their discretion / Upto x% of the work week
  • Funding for attending conferences abroad

Notes

Motivation

I'm soon going to start a Post-Doc in the Netherlands. The labor laws are different from where I did my Ph.D. work; the academic culture is somewhat different; the unionization situation is different; etc.

So, I've gotten the informal offer over email, and I'm now expecting the formal contract offer. I already have a copy of the collective employment agreement which covers post-doctoral researchers where I'll be working.

When I did my PhD, like I said, the situation was quite different - plus, I didn't actually get to sign any contract and no bargaining was involved. But now there might be some bargaining (although I'm not sure to what extent as employment conditions are mostly standardized).

The actual question

My question is: What are, in your experience or opinion are points that are possible/useful to bargain about in the individualized contract? If you can, please give an example of better vs worse options for the same point. Long lists with less details are also quite ok by me :-)

Examples

(some more academia-specific and some more generic)

  • The extent to which the academic institute controls copyrights to your discoveries: Partial copyright in your works / Institute controls everything / Automatic publication under free license.
  • The extent to which you can be required to perform duties other than your chosen specific personal research: Not at all / At their discretion / Upto x% of the work week
  • Funding for attending conferences abroad

Notes

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What should I watch for What's the bargaining space in a post-doc researcher employment contract - in the Netherlands?

Motivation

I'm soon going to start a Post-Doc abroad (or rather, in a different country than where I am now). In that country, the Netherlands. The labor laws are different;different from where I did my Ph.D. work; the academic culture is somewhat different; the unionization situation is differentdifferent; etc.

So, I've gotten the informal offer over email, and I'm now expecting the formal contract offer. I already have a collective employment agreementcopy of the collective employment agreement which covers post-doctoral researchers where I'll be working.

When I did my PhD, like I said, the situation was quite different - plus, I didn't actually get to sign any contract and no bargaining was involved. But now there might be some bargaining (although I'm not sure to what extent as employment conditions are mostly standardized).

The actual question

My question is: What are, in your experience, important or opinion are points that are possible/useful to watch forbargain about in the individualized contract? If you can, please give an example of better vs worse options for the same point. Long lists with less details are also quite ok by me :-)

Examples

(some more academia-specific and some more generic)

  • The extent to which the academic institute controls copyrights to your discoveries: Partial copyright in your works / Institute controls everything / Automatic publication under free license.
  • The extent to which you can be required to perform duties other than your chosen specific personal research: Not at all / At their discretion / Upto x% of the work week
  • Number of vacation days per year
  • Funding for attending conferences abroad

Notes

  • Somewhat-related question: What questions should I ask when I visit labs for potential post-doc employment?
  • No need to tell me more money is better than less money :Please answer even if your experience does not regard the Netherlands. I'm particularly interested in inter-)
  • I intentionally left out which country/state this is, which institution and which academic domainnational differences, to make this question more generally applicable. If you think that'sbecause the prevalence of alternatives elsewhere is a poor choice, comment and tell me whypoint I can use in bargaining.

What should I watch for in a post-doc researcher employment contract?

Motivation

I'm soon going to start a Post-Doc abroad (or rather, in a different country than where I am now). In that country, the labor laws are different; the academic culture is somewhat different; the unionization situation is different etc.

So, I've gotten the informal offer over email, and I'm now expecting the formal contract. I already have a collective employment agreement which covers post-doctoral researchers where I'll be working.

When I did my PhD, like I said, the situation was quite different - plus, I didn't actually get to sign any contract and no bargaining was involved. But now there might be some bargaining (although I'm not sure to what extent as employment conditions are mostly standardized).

The actual question

My question is: What are, in your experience, important points to watch for in the contract? If you can, please give an example of better vs worse options for the same point. Long lists with less details are also quite ok by me :-)

Examples

(some more academia-specific and some more generic)

  • The extent to which the academic institute controls copyrights to your discoveries: Partial copyright in your works / Institute controls everything / Automatic publication under free license.
  • The extent to which you can be required to perform duties other than your chosen specific personal research: Not at all / At their discretion / Upto x% of the work week
  • Number of vacation days per year
  • Funding for attending conferences abroad

Notes

What's the bargaining space in a post-doc employment contract - in the Netherlands?

Motivation

I'm soon going to start a Post-Doc in the Netherlands. The labor laws are different from where I did my Ph.D. work; the academic culture is somewhat different; the unionization situation is different; etc.

So, I've gotten the informal offer over email, and I'm now expecting the formal contract offer. I already have a copy of the collective employment agreement which covers post-doctoral researchers where I'll be working.

When I did my PhD, like I said, the situation was quite different - plus, I didn't actually get to sign any contract and no bargaining was involved. But now there might be some bargaining (although I'm not sure to what extent as employment conditions are mostly standardized).

The actual question

My question is: What are, in your experience or opinion are points that are possible/useful to bargain about in the individualized contract? If you can, please give an example of better vs worse options for the same point. Long lists with less details are also quite ok by me :-)

Examples

(some more academia-specific and some more generic)

  • The extent to which the academic institute controls copyrights to your discoveries: Partial copyright in your works / Institute controls everything / Automatic publication under free license.
  • The extent to which you can be required to perform duties other than your chosen specific personal research: Not at all / At their discretion / Upto x% of the work week
  • Funding for attending conferences abroad

Notes

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