Timeline for Is it normal to have no publications after 2.5 years in a PhD program?
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| Oct 1, 2015 at 13:36 | comment | added | Fábio Dias | Just to clarify a detail, the vast majority of universities accept as thesis a collection of papers: you write an introduction chapter, slap your articles there, a conclusion chapter and done. So no "in addition", the work overhead is minimal. That's how CS works, which is the OP field and mine. | |
| Oct 1, 2015 at 1:13 | history | edited | ff524 | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Oct 1, 2015 at 1:11 | comment | added | ff524 | Please refer to the Be Nice policy. Users of this site are required to refrain from name-calling. | |
| Oct 1, 2015 at 1:07 | comment | added | padawan | By many professors, I have been told that the difference between a M.Sc. and a Ph.D. is much more than the difference between a Ph.D. and an Assoc. Prof. The very next step of a Ph.D. graduate is supervising researches. For that, he/she has to know how to conduct quality research. To give that precious title, I think it is a university's very very much natural right to require a SCI publication. I think that insulting people by sarcasm or calling them dumbass is not necessary. | |
| Oct 1, 2015 at 1:06 | comment | added | Fomite | @TheDoctor That statement is just absurdly false. It may be irrelevant, but it isn't necessarily. | |
| Oct 1, 2015 at 0:59 | comment | added | Mark Rosenblitt-Janssen | @Fomite: I feel your concern about career, but quite honestly a PhD is irrelevant to career. Save that for Master's degree which SHOULD be about merely mastering a trade or craft. In any case, the careers you're likely talking about are for shills and probably aren't worth a PhD's time. What you are seeing is the fact that most Corporations don't have a clue how to assess a post-Bachelor's education. To limit their search by a crude metric of "publications" says that Academia has let Corporations get more power than themselves. | |
| Oct 1, 2015 at 0:53 | comment | added | Mark Rosenblitt-Janssen | [Re-edit from prior comment] Well, Mr. Dias, you're not only making useless work for the PhD candidate requiring publications IN ADDITION to their dissertation which counts as a publication. You're now also diluting the publishing industry which is getting papers merely because they're requirements towards some neophyte's PhD. Why don't you start a journal called "Papers for Requirements of my PhD". @tonysdg: "crude" language removed for the sake of the children. | |
| Oct 1, 2015 at 0:52 | history | edited | Mark Rosenblitt-Janssen | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Oct 1, 2015 at 0:50 | comment | added | tonysdg | Really? Crude language? Unnecessary @TheDoctor. | |
| Oct 1, 2015 at 0:47 | history | edited | Mark Rosenblitt-Janssen | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Oct 1, 2015 at 0:40 | history | edited | Mark Rosenblitt-Janssen | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Oct 1, 2015 at 0:31 | comment | added | Fábio Dias | Or they are helping their students to actually get somewhere, without having grants denied because of the lack of publications. Since you won't get into a postdoc and want to publish after the end of the phd, from where is the money coming from? In computer science, stuff does not work that way... And yes, I'll go against a policy that I agree with and I found in at least 5 universities in 3 countries because random internet dude said so... | |
| Sep 30, 2015 at 22:42 | comment | added | Mark Rosenblitt-Janssen | You can tell those universities that they're dumbing down the value of a PhD. | |
| Sep 30, 2015 at 22:16 | comment | added | Fábio Dias | I know several universities that won't let you defend your phd until have more than a fixed (small) number of publications.... | |
| Sep 30, 2015 at 21:52 | comment | added | Mark Rosenblitt-Janssen | @daaxix: It is absurd to insist that you publish in order to finish a PhD, which essentially makes the degree about jumping through hoops rather than the ideals of what Academe is. Only a weak university would insist on such because they aren't apparently willing to stand behind who they reward the letters if the first place and they figure is someone ELSE check them out (a peer review panel of a journey), then they won't feel so much out on the limb. | |
| Sep 30, 2015 at 21:49 | history | edited | Mark Rosenblitt-Janssen | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Sep 30, 2015 at 21:27 | comment | added | Fomite | It's not necessarily normal - for example, in my field, it would be extremely unusual to have nothing published prior to graduating, would definitely hamper that career you're suggesting people save stuff for, and if you don't even have papers prepped for publication, will stop you from graduating. At my alma mater, at least one paper had to have been submitted. | |
| Jul 28, 2014 at 23:04 | comment | added | daaxix | In engineering, optical sciences, and some physics subfields you must publish to finish a Ph.D., my advisor wants 3 peer reviewed publications in high impact journals, but has been known to accept only 2. | |
| Jul 26, 2014 at 2:56 | comment | added | JeffE | @MarkJ PhD students are researchers. Dude. | |
| Jul 25, 2014 at 17:50 | comment | added | Shion | @MarkJ I think that the formal term, at least in my university, is Graduate Researcher | |
| Jul 25, 2014 at 14:22 | comment | added | Mark Rosenblitt-Janssen | @JeffE: No. Then call yourself a "researcher", not a student, dude. | |
| Jul 25, 2014 at 12:55 | comment | added | JeffE | If you're a PhD student, your career has already started. | |
| Jul 25, 2014 at 10:13 | comment | added | choener | In th areas of CS I'm active in (bioinformatics, some functional programming) it is definitely normal to have publications. The 'obsession' sentence is /really/ wrong -- staple theses are becoming more and more the norm. | |
| Jul 25, 2014 at 7:29 | comment | added | ff524 | they are not connected with the pursuit of knowledge - communicating your research to other scientists, and getting feedback from other scientists by having your work peer reviewed and presenting it at a conference (in CS), is certainly part of the pursuit of knowledge | |
| Jul 25, 2014 at 4:59 | comment | added | Noah Snyder | Although that's normal in many (most?) fields, I'm not sure it's true in CS. | |
| Jul 25, 2014 at 4:41 | history | edited | Mark Rosenblitt-Janssen | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Jul 25, 2014 at 4:28 | history | answered | Mark Rosenblitt-Janssen | CC BY-SA 3.0 |