Timeline for How to turn down a Postdoc scholarship offer after signing a contract
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| Jul 2, 2014 at 11:07 | comment | added | Stephan Tarasov | @Pete L. Clark: Thank you. It is very nice of you to offer helpful suggestions and be kind at the same time. | |
| Jul 1, 2014 at 23:06 | comment | added | Pete L. Clark | @Stephan: Upon reflection, your retaliatory comments constitute a sufficiently firm denial of my help that it no longer seems appropriate for me to continue to offer it. I have deleted them. I wish you the best of luck in what is a very challenging job market. | |
| Jul 1, 2014 at 17:20 | comment | added | Stephan Tarasov | @Pete L. Clark: As I commented, I respect your comments. I explained you that I set your answer as my accepted answer. I don't know if you understand, it actually seems, saying something like Never offer a job to Stephan Tarasov is not really helpful, right? | |
| Jul 1, 2014 at 10:47 | comment | added | Stephan Tarasov | @Pete L. Clark: I set your answer as my accepted answer. However, as I read through your comments again, I really don't understand this comment (Never offer a job to Stephan Tarasov). I would now be writing a note to myself if we are in the same field: "Never apply a job to Pete L. Clark". For he is likely to be unreasonable about the contract and he might care less about the future of his coworkers once it comes to his credit. | |
| Jun 21, 2014 at 7:51 | history | edited | xLeitix | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Jun 20, 2014 at 21:54 | comment | added | Stephan Tarasov | Ok, my last comment. Why should it "could be acceptable is when you get offered a faculty position"? | |
| Jun 20, 2014 at 21:47 | comment | added | xLeitix | Guys, way too much arguing has happened here in the comments. Let's move this over to chat (chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/15245/…) if you want to continue the discussion. | |
| Jun 20, 2014 at 21:44 | comment | added | Stephan Tarasov | I get this point. Sorry, I just want to argue. It's only because your point is too strong;) I mean one should say first a sentence maybe like: there is an exception for everything... | |
| Jun 20, 2014 at 21:40 | comment | added | Stephan Tarasov | I appreciate your suggestion. But I really cannot follow some of your very strong argument. It simply because the fellowship means much more to the applicant than to the founders. I think we should make this points very clearly. | |
| Jun 20, 2014 at 21:38 | comment | added | Christian Clason | Also, you seem not to be aware that this answer is about considering your own career: Your reputation is one of your most valuable assets in academia, and what you want to do will definitely give you a bad reputation. You do not want to be known as the guy who backs out of a signed contract the second a slightly(!) better offer comes around when it's time to apply for faculty positions. | |
| Jun 20, 2014 at 21:34 | comment | added | Stephan Tarasov | Let's say, what if one don't get the fellowship. He puts a lot of time (far more than the administration oriented time) and finally ends up with nothing? Will this hurts the applicant more? | |
| Jun 20, 2014 at 20:14 | comment | added | Stephan Tarasov | Thanks. I know. He has a strong suggestion. That's why I am trying to argue. | |
| Jun 20, 2014 at 19:53 | comment | added | cc7768 | I don't think that was what he said. I agree with this answer and, without any more information about your circumstance, I think the point of his answer was that it would be better for your career if you kept the contract you signed... | |
| Jun 20, 2014 at 19:26 | comment | added | Stephan Tarasov | Are you saying you keeping all of your promises all the time? And you never break any of your promises even in cases of no one gets hurt? | |
| Jun 20, 2014 at 19:23 | comment | added | xLeitix | "But my point is that here one should consider more his own career." I disagree wholeheartedly. But ok, opinions have been exchanged. Let's leave it at that. | |
| Jun 20, 2014 at 19:22 | comment | added | Stephan Tarasov | I understand you want to make a strong statement there. And after reading your comments I agree with you regarding the fact that I might have burning bridges. That's why I want to find a way out of it. In this regards, for people have similar situations here, your answer might freak them out. But my point is that here one should consider more his own career. Because this should not hurt anyone. Of course, at the same time, considering to keep one's promise as far as possible. | |
| Jun 20, 2014 at 19:16 | comment | added | xLeitix | @StephanTarasov What I meant is that when you get offered a faculty position, people in academia tend to be rather understanding because those possibilities are extremely rare. Backing out of a signed contract is still really bad, but there's a higher chance that people would be understanding. | |
| Jun 20, 2014 at 19:12 | comment | added | Stephan Tarasov | "no turning back anymore" This I cannot agree. You also said "this could be acceptable is when you get offered a faculty position instead of a postdoc." This conflicts your opinions on the contracts. Right? | |
| Jun 20, 2014 at 19:02 | comment | added | xLeitix | @StephanTarasov Not really. You are in a phase were there is no turning back anymore. That's kind of what contracts are for, right? | |
| Jun 20, 2014 at 18:00 | comment | added | Stephan Tarasov | I signed a contract in a week ago. But there might be a chance that it's not there yet. Would you see it differently if I contact the prof. in very short time from now and explain him the situation? | |
| Jun 20, 2014 at 16:22 | history | answered | xLeitix | CC BY-SA 3.0 |