Timeline for How soon to fire rude and chaotic PhD student?
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Aug 23 at 5:27 | history | edited | Glen O | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
Fixing a couple of typos and awkward choices of word
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Aug 22 at 18:55 | comment | added | einpoklum | @WhatTheDuck: If that's the situation, then perhaps what's missing is some kind of relevant "socio-organizational" orientation for new PhD candidates - to help people realize the change of circumstances between undergraduate studies and employment as a researcher-in-training. It may not be complete panacea, but it would at least reduce the chances of this happening. | |
Aug 22 at 15:53 | comment | added | WhatTheDuck | @einpoklum It happens. Probably more frequently in the US, since it is fairly common in some fields for students to go directly from their bachelor's program to a Ph.D. program, and the Ph.D. program may be the first time a student's success depends on more than just their academic achievements. | |
Aug 22 at 12:53 | comment | added | Aubreal | +1 for "There is no particular length of time you need to wait, but rather an amount of effort you need to put in." | |
Aug 22 at 12:04 | comment | added | einpoklum | @Trunk: To me it just seems unlikely that a person would start a PhD - probably uprooting their life to go live somewhere, for a multi-year commitment, to just, you know, act out and getting into fight with their advisor/supervisor. There's gotta be some kind of issue that OP is missing / not describing. It could be with the PhD candidate, it could be with OP, it could be with the compatibility of their characters. | |
Aug 22 at 11:06 | comment | added | user104446 | I think many answers (though not mine, I admit) sort of vaguely hedged for the possibility of supervisor fault. Yet none of them actually said so. We see a lot of humbug like going to the HoD, giving it more time, having a sit-down with the student, ultimatum on an agreed plan, etc, etc. Your answer is the first to openly suggest possible flaws in OP's approach - and by extension, OP's own character. | |
Aug 22 at 11:05 | comment | added | Captain Emacs | Good alternative viewpoint. Upvoted. That being said, there are difficult students. And I say that as someone who was the default "go-to" person in the department to handle difficult people. | |
Aug 22 at 10:50 | comment | added | einpoklum | This. Most other answers seem to take the OP's appraisal of the state of affairs at face value: The Ph.D. candidate is the source of the problem, and the it's a a matter of how OP is to handle them. As you point out, this is likely not quite how things stand. | |
Aug 22 at 3:27 | history | answered | Glen O | CC BY-SA 4.0 |