Timeline for Is it ethical for advisors to automatically coauthor papers?
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| Apr 17, 2019 at 8:56 | comment | added | Artem Kaznatcheev | Some of the answers on this question might give you insights about the field differences: When should a supervisor be an author? | |
| Jul 4, 2018 at 5:12 | comment | added | Vladhagen | @CliffAB The standard way to correctly attribute the provider of funding is in a daggered/asterisked footnote on the first page of the paper. | |
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| Aug 15, 2016 at 11:31 | answer | added | Jan Hackenberg | timeline score: 2 | |
| May 22, 2016 at 1:53 | comment | added | Cliff AB | With your billionaire scientist idea: actually, I would have no problem with putting someone who funded billions of dollars of science projects, and actually talked 15 minutes a week with the scientist, as a coauthor. | |
| May 20, 2016 at 16:58 | answer | added | Norman Gray | timeline score: 3 | |
| May 20, 2016 at 14:01 | comment | added | IgotiT | I agree with @shane that it is totally unethical to add your name in manuscript just because of administrative reasons no matter whether your are advisor or head of laboratory or any other person influencing the author just because of administrative reasons. | |
| May 19, 2016 at 12:33 | comment | added | Rob | With the benefit of having been through grad school and am now doing something else, I would say yes its ethical, because of the funding situation. Natural sciences grad studentships are based on grant funding. The advisor had to create the grant in the first place. The work the student is doing is based on the grant. So yes the advisor really should get a large share of the credit even if they did nothing to directly support the paper. | |
| Jun 22, 2014 at 22:59 | comment | added | user10636 | Nobody has a problem with people who deserve credit getting credit. What I have a problem with is people who don't deserve credit getting it. Leave the issue of how the practice victimizes grad students aside. It would still be wrong for a prof to receive credit for work she didn't do. | |
| Jun 22, 2014 at 22:46 | comment | added | Floris | I think they key word in your question is "automatically". Most of the time a research advisor ought to be able to help you make your paper better to the point of deserving co-authorship. And in many fields, the name of a well known co-author will increase the chances of the paper being read and cited - which will benefit the first author. In some sense, the "authority"'s name on the paper conveys additional credibility that goes beyond the fact that the work passed peer review. Unless the journal is known for exceptionally tight review standards, that helps. | |
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| Apr 23, 2014 at 18:54 | answer | added | Fomite | timeline score: 5 | |
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| Apr 15, 2014 at 23:55 | comment | added | AJMansfield | The billionare in your example would not in fact become known as a scientist in this situation, nor would he merit (or be awarded) any of the skill certifications you mention. But with giving authorship credit, the scientists are getting off easy, actually - I'd expect him to require something closer to having his personal logo be included in the header or footer of every single page. | |
| Apr 15, 2014 at 22:36 | answer | added | Daniel | timeline score: 76 | |
| Apr 15, 2014 at 22:28 | comment | added | user10636 | @izkata, are you suggesting making the rubber duck a co-author? | |
| Apr 15, 2014 at 21:53 | answer | added | Darren Ong | timeline score: 7 | |
| Apr 15, 2014 at 20:53 | comment | added | Izkata | @DavidRicherby They don't even need to suggest anything, just make the them talk/think aloud | |
| Apr 15, 2014 at 20:02 | answer | added | Faheem Mitha | timeline score: 9 | |
| Apr 15, 2014 at 19:49 | comment | added | user10636 | Here's a conversation I have with my grad student colleagues occasionally. "Hey, look at this for me. I've got these three premises that should entail this conclusion, but I can't get the proof." "Yeah, you missed a negation here." "oh, yeah. there it is." I would never want to be a coauthor for something like that. | |
| Apr 15, 2014 at 19:47 | comment | added | David Richerby | Your example of a billionaire who knows nothing about science doesn't hold water. The billionaire clearly made no intellectual contribution, since s/he knows nothing about science. Discussing something with the head of a scientific laboratory for 15 minutes a week could result in a significant scientific contribution, though this is not guaranteed. (For example, "I can't get X to work." "Did you try adjustment Y?" Next week, "Hey, Y allowed me to get great results!") | |
| Apr 15, 2014 at 19:42 | answer | added | Benoît Kloeckner | timeline score: 31 | |
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| Apr 15, 2014 at 18:46 | history | edited | user10636 | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Apr 15, 2014 at 17:46 | comment | added | Pete L. Clark | @Suresh: The questions overlap but in my opinion are not identical. Moreover both questions are (still in my opinion, of course) just about the most important questions one could ask on a site like this. So I think they should be encouraged and people should think hard about giving good, broadly applicable answers. | |
| Apr 15, 2014 at 17:20 | answer | added | xLeitix | timeline score: 38 | |
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| Apr 15, 2014 at 15:11 | comment | added | Geremia | Interestingly, I had a first-author paper with a co-author adviser who demanded I take his name off the paper before putting it on arXiv. He didn't tell me exactly why, but perhaps his rationale was that he didn't think it was ethical to "leech" onto a student's paper. | |
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