Timeline for Is my advisor asking me to commit fraud?
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| Apr 22, 2021 at 21:53 | comment | added | thegreatemu | At some institutions, including mine, this could be essentially fraud. If you work on projects with research from two or more different funding sources, and you perform unpaid work only on one of them, you are effectively overcharging the other one. (Research A gets more research hours per dollar than Research B). This is an unlikely but very real consideration | |
| Apr 22, 2021 at 18:52 | vote | accept | early_departure | ||
| Apr 22, 2021 at 16:04 | comment | added | alephzero | The way to avoid this situation in future is do things in the correct order: (1) take all the unused vacation up to your planned leaving date, and (2) hand in your notice. | |
| Apr 22, 2021 at 15:32 | answer | added | Steven Gubkin | timeline score: 4 | |
| Apr 22, 2021 at 15:06 | comment | added | NDEthos | If you do work on your own time to write those papers you should be demanding to be first Author on them.(get it in writing) I would only be doing them for my own career advancement and passion. If it feels like work and you don't want to do it then don't. | |
| Apr 22, 2021 at 7:04 | answer | added | henning no longer feeds AI | timeline score: 2 | |
| Apr 22, 2021 at 6:45 | answer | added | EarlGrey | timeline score: 15 | |
| Apr 22, 2021 at 5:53 | comment | added | lighthouse keeper | A financially well-organized department will have some reserve funds to cover such cases. Either they didn't do their homework (bad for them then), or your advisor hasn't arranged these funds to be used (probably because he wants to squeeze more work out of you). | |
| Apr 22, 2021 at 5:19 | history | became hot network question | |||
| Apr 22, 2021 at 0:44 | answer | added | A rural reader | timeline score: 3 | |
| Apr 22, 2021 at 0:41 | comment | added | Dan Romik | Against whom are you imagining that the supposed fraud would be committed? And what law are you imagining would be broken by your agreeing to write papers during your vacation days? | |
| Apr 22, 2021 at 0:00 | history | tweeted | twitter.com/StackAcademia/status/1385020551308189708 | ||
| Apr 21, 2021 at 23:59 | comment | added | early_departure | @BryanKrause Thanks. As with that poster, I have had some prior problems with this advisor, and also feel that he bears the brunt of the responsibility for the delay in these papers being submitted. Perhaps that is factoring in to my thoughts on this subject. | |
| Apr 21, 2021 at 23:30 | comment | added | Bryan Krause♦ | Another Q&A that differs from your situation but has some overlapping issues about work in academia and how expectations and norms can differ with industry, leading to conflicts between people with more "industry-like" perspectives and those with more "academia-like" perspectives: academia.stackexchange.com/questions/148938 | |
| Apr 21, 2021 at 23:28 | comment | added | paperskilltrees | I agree with the previous answers. By the way, "cannot afford" sounds like utter bs: since you are leaving earlier, there will be money left in the budget, which would otherwise be spent on your salary. One argument you can make is that nobody knows how much time you will spend on finishing papers after leaving, which will be unpaid work; thus, it is even more unfair if your vacation money is taken away. But I warn you against this argument, as it leads you to making promises and gaining nothing in return. Perhaps, this is how your advisor wants to play it: wait and see him offering this deal. | |
| Apr 21, 2021 at 23:23 | answer | added | Anonymous Physicist | timeline score: 11 | |
| Apr 21, 2021 at 23:10 | comment | added | early_departure | @paperskilltrees the vacation days. My pay is not tied to papers in any way. | |
| Apr 21, 2021 at 23:09 | comment | added | paperskilltrees | "His argument for this is that he "cannot afford" to pay me for them" What is "them": the vacation days or the papers? | |
| Apr 21, 2021 at 22:20 | answer | added | Bryan Krause♦ | timeline score: 39 | |
| Apr 21, 2021 at 21:34 | comment | added | knzhou | If you willingly do it, then there's no way it would be fraud on your part -- people compulsively work on vacation all the time! Don't try to hide behind a rule. Just say you won't do it because you, personally, don't want to. | |
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