Timeline for What are the economic incentives for professors to hire and train graduate students?
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| Sep 14, 2020 at 23:00 | vote | accept | Guldam Kwak | ||
| Sep 13, 2020 at 11:01 | answer | added | user129430 | timeline score: 3 | |
| Sep 12, 2020 at 3:26 | comment | added | Greg | There are many possible incentives to training grad students (depending on many factors): future professional network, possible way to build collaboration with other groups (training together students), assist in topics that one is interested but have not enough time to follow (intellectual curiosity), also often a requirement for job, grants, position. | |
| Sep 12, 2020 at 2:02 | comment | added | Mad Physicist | @RodrigodeAzevedo. I'm not implying that you have to be an ascetic to be a professor. Just that you aren't likely to be motivated by the pursuit of money to the exclusion of everything else. | |
| Sep 12, 2020 at 2:00 | comment | added | Mad Physicist | @RodrigodeAzevedo. Having some connections in that area, I strongly suspect that the professors are getting a comfortable wage, but nothing unusual. It seems pretty clear that a professor with many decades of experience is earning about what you would expect an engineer at amazon to make after about a fifth of that time. I'm looking at ucannualwage.ucop.edu/wage, locations "ALL", and sorted by regular pay. Seems like sports coaches are the ones that are financially minded, even more than executives :) | |
| Sep 12, 2020 at 1:32 | comment | added | Rodrigo de Azevedo | @MadPhysicist The yearly pay of professors in the University of California system is available online. For example, Terry Tao is not exactly poorly paid. | |
| Sep 12, 2020 at 1:30 | comment | added | Mad Physicist | @DanRomik. I was going to suggest that being a professor indicates that someone is not really prioritizing economic incentives to begin with. Perhaps long-term incentives for humanity as a whole, but certainly not personal ones. For most of the quality professors I've met, a small side-step into industry is all it takes to give up some personal values (not many, really) in return for a very large pile of cash. | |
| Sep 11, 2020 at 18:25 | comment | added | cag51♦ | Perhaps a related aspect of the question is "why grad students rather than post-docs"? Post-docs are generally more qualified and usually cost about the same (in the US at least, since a grad student's "tuition" offsets the lower stipend). | |
| Sep 11, 2020 at 18:11 | comment | added | Our | it is a cheap labour, what else do you want | |
| Sep 11, 2020 at 14:56 | answer | added | user2705196 | timeline score: 7 | |
| Sep 11, 2020 at 8:31 | comment | added | Davor | @DanRomik you forgot the /s. | |
| Sep 11, 2020 at 6:27 | answer | added | Stian | timeline score: 2 | |
| Sep 11, 2020 at 0:28 | answer | added | Ben Bolker | timeline score: 6 | |
| Sep 10, 2020 at 21:00 | history | tweeted | twitter.com/StackAcademia/status/1304162759039496192 | ||
| Sep 10, 2020 at 20:27 | comment | added | user92734 | I feel like only one of these incentive questions makes sense to ask at a time. If grad students are useful, then that's incentive for professors to hire and train them. If they're not, that's incentive for professors to make them graduate as fast as possible :) | |
| Sep 10, 2020 at 19:30 | answer | added | Frank Hopkins | timeline score: 5 | |
| Sep 10, 2020 at 17:28 | answer | added | user151413 | timeline score: 10 | |
| Sep 10, 2020 at 16:49 | comment | added | Jessica B | @RodrigodeAzevedo Hahahahaha. Well, ok, in some countries they can. But in the UK at least it's pretty hard at times to even spend it on your own research. A colleague won a large grant, and was allowed by the uni to freely decide how to spend something like £50. | |
| Sep 10, 2020 at 16:47 | answer | added | Jessica B | timeline score: 11 | |
| Sep 10, 2020 at 15:26 | comment | added | Crazymoomin | In some cases the university either forces them or strongly pressures them to do so. Professors and other academic staff will have an expectation to have X-Y graduate students on their roll at any one time. Have too few (or indeed too many) and you may be questioned about it by your superiors. | |
| Sep 10, 2020 at 15:19 | comment | added | Rodrigo de Azevedo | Can't professors pocket a percentage of the grant? 10%? 20%? | |
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| Sep 10, 2020 at 13:00 | comment | added | Guldam Kwak | @Dan Romik I have heard that what you have mentioned is absoultely true, espcially for those who already are tenured. However, as you noticed, I wonder the mechanism in the system, rather than the general mood of the society. | |
| Sep 10, 2020 at 7:59 | comment | added | Dan Romik | @astronat well, it doesn’t technically answer OP’s question, so I think it makes more sense as a comment. | |
| Sep 10, 2020 at 7:57 | comment | added | astronat supports the strike | @DanRomik that should be an answer! | |
| Sep 10, 2020 at 7:23 | answer | added | mlk | timeline score: 41 | |
| Sep 10, 2020 at 6:18 | answer | added | Allure | timeline score: 14 | |
| Sep 10, 2020 at 6:12 | comment | added | Dan Romik | Many professors simply enjoy working with graduate students and get satisfaction out of the work, and the feeling that they are helping advance research in their field and train the next generation of researchers. There’s more to why people do things than economic incentives. | |
| Sep 10, 2020 at 6:00 | comment | added | FourierFlux | Well, in applied topics the funder is often the government and the government threatens to revoke funding unless graduate students and undergraduate students are used in research. | |
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