Timeline for Is a professor who's never had to write a grant application disadvantaged in the job market?
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| Aug 14, 2020 at 3:05 | vote | accept | Allure | ||
| Aug 13, 2020 at 10:25 | comment | added | SSimon | @DKNguyen I assume your question was a joke. Yes most of them. | |
| Aug 12, 2020 at 14:02 | comment | added | DKNguyen | @SSimon You mean not every astronomer builds and owns their own telescope?! | |
| Aug 11, 2020 at 20:49 | comment | added | Ink blot | Can you also name the first professor? Can it be me? | |
| Aug 11, 2020 at 19:34 | comment | added | JeffE | Also can the university actually guarantee 5% interest?! That sounds like an awfully good rate of return — Heh. Some universities have a history of being unreasonably optimistic about money. | |
| Aug 11, 2020 at 16:19 | comment | added | David Ketcheson | No, I don’t have to. | |
| Aug 11, 2020 at 14:00 | comment | added | Allure | @DavidKetcheson do you have to write grant applications? | |
| Aug 11, 2020 at 13:59 | comment | added | Allure | @JeffE right, which is why I'm going to need $5-10 million. (Also can the university actually guarantee 5% interest?! That sounds like an awfully good rate of return.) | |
| Aug 11, 2020 at 10:03 | comment | added | David Ketcheson | @JeffE Sorry, by "you" I didn't mean the OP specifically but rather the proverbial you. | |
| Aug 11, 2020 at 10:02 | comment | added | David Ketcheson | @Allure that basically describes my career, so I guess I don't think it's a bad idea. | |
| Aug 11, 2020 at 7:49 | answer | added | Dan Romik | timeline score: 1 | |
| Aug 11, 2020 at 0:42 | comment | added | JeffE | @DavidKetcheson Are you really going to hire as an endowed professor — No, he isn't. Donors don't hire (or choose) endowed professors; universities do. | |
| Aug 11, 2020 at 0:41 | comment | added | JeffE | FYI: The usual investment for an endowed position in the US is somewhere between $500K and $1M. The university keeps the principal in their endowment, and gives the chair-holder 5% interest per year to pay for research. So a $500K gift pays for about $25K per year of research, which (in my field, at my university) is enough to cover one PhD student for about one semester per year, with no travel support or summer salary. That's helpful, but it's far from enough to support a thriving research program. | |
| Aug 10, 2020 at 20:22 | comment | added | Allure | @DavidKetcheson why not? Endow the person immediately (or shortly) after their PhD, which simultaneously solves the problem of having to move around a lot + the difficulty of finding a permanent position, at least for one person. Is that a bad idea? | |
| Aug 10, 2020 at 18:00 | history | tweeted | twitter.com/StackAcademia/status/1292883416153755649 | ||
| Aug 10, 2020 at 15:30 | history | became hot network question | |||
| Aug 10, 2020 at 13:24 | comment | added | user2705196 | Not an answer but a comment closely related to your question/intention. It may be worth contemplating that writing grant applications might not be a waste of time but might actually be helpful in improving a professor's research! I know academics like to complain about the process, and clearly the correlation between grant quality and funding is extremely low, but there's the possibility that even the smartest genius ends up improving their ideas by defending their proposed research against outsiders... | |
| Aug 10, 2020 at 11:35 | answer | added | Buffy | timeline score: 8 | |
| Aug 10, 2020 at 11:05 | comment | added | David Ketcheson | The title question and the body seem contradictory. Are you really going to hire as an endowed professor somebody that never wrote a grant proposal? | |
| Aug 10, 2020 at 10:30 | comment | added | astronat supports the strike | @SSimon and what pays for the facilities and funds your collaborators to come and visit? | |
| Aug 10, 2020 at 10:24 | comment | added | Buffy | Be aware that you may not be able to do this. You might have some influence with the university, but it is they who decide who can be a Professor, not the funder, and what the conditions of employment are. Funders don't get to control things. | |
| Aug 10, 2020 at 10:24 | comment | added | SSimon | Oh for astronomy you don't need grants you need access to facilities and collaborating network | |
| Aug 10, 2020 at 9:48 | comment | added | Anonymous Physicist | academia.stackexchange.com/questions/109636/… | |
| Aug 10, 2020 at 9:40 | answer | added | Anonymous Physicist | timeline score: 10 | |
| Aug 10, 2020 at 9:30 | comment | added | Anonymous Physicist | academia.stackexchange.com/questions/103525/… | |
| Aug 10, 2020 at 9:07 | comment | added | Allure | @AlexanderWoo field is probably astronomy, if broader then physics and if narrower then cosmology. Country is not certain yet. Does it matter though? As I understand it, academics are very mobile, so it matters less which country as long as it's disadvantageous. | |
| Aug 10, 2020 at 7:37 | comment | added | Dmitry Savostyanov | One can hardly get a postdoc these days without a proven record of (successful) grant writing. | |
| Aug 10, 2020 at 7:25 | comment | added | user9482 | In my field, regardless of how much funding you provide, any decent professor would still want to apply for additional grants. Also, in most fields, collaboration is important and grants are the basis of joint research projects. | |
| Aug 10, 2020 at 6:52 | comment | added | Alexander Woo | I think you need to add some information about the field and the country because the answer depends on these. | |
| Aug 10, 2020 at 6:44 | history | asked | Allure | CC BY-SA 4.0 |