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Apr 4, 2019 at 11:12 comment added mfg I'd not be too negative about all this. It is just that we are confronted with a wide range of situations. E.g. I have been in an industrial research unit right after my Master's and wanted to do my PhD there. Because of loads of questionable project work, no leading-edge technology projects, little focus on proper research training and lack of mentoring, my first trial was entirely infeasible. In that case, I can't confirm your conclusion. It really depends! Overall, a PhD in my field mostly makes sense when pursuing a career in science. I don't see the point of losing that time otherwise.
Apr 4, 2019 at 7:31 comment added Masked The thing is that "training for a scientific career" is vague and sounds something that is potentially even more do-able in industry. There are research labs in industry, research teams, even professors who have left academia. Plus they have more funding to do bigger, more sophisticated projects. Many academicians lack scientific experience themselves having never worked on a large scale project. I feel like perhaps a PhD degree is no longer sensible in today's economy. This economy does not and has never rewarded scientific smarts.
Apr 3, 2019 at 10:26 history answered mfg CC BY-SA 4.0