Timeline for What can be done about a disruptive classmate?
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| Feb 27, 2019 at 14:05 | review | Low quality posts | |||
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| Nov 14, 2018 at 21:09 | comment | added | Jeffrey J Weimer | I am going to amend my comments (remove some of them). For some extremely odd reason, I was focused on the question as though an instructor was asking. It is another student who is asking. The recommendation to talk with the instructor is the best. | |
| Nov 14, 2018 at 13:09 | comment | added | Jeffrey J Weimer | @JoshuaZ Not every battle can be fought ... The battle is at least to report the case. The absence of documentation is often grounds for administration to believe that we do live in an ideal world. | |
| Nov 14, 2018 at 2:51 | comment | added | JoshuaZ | @JeffreyJWeimer" I know of no office that has a mission to "frown upon" being contacted. If that happens, the office should be reported all the way up the Provost for being irresponsible. We live in a non-ideal world, and we have either to step up when demanded or cower in our own misery. I recommend the former." We do live in a non-ideal world, and we also have a limited amount of time and resources. Not every battle can be fought, and so one must pick and choose what one will or will not fight about. Any other response is quick way to exhaust all resources. | |
| Nov 13, 2018 at 23:50 | comment | added | De Novo | @JeffreyJWeimer re: "until the student registers an official disability waiver" in the US, the ADA applies, whether or not a person has registered with disability services. The only requirement is that a person has a qualifying impairment, a record of an impairment, or is regarded as having such an impairment. The bureaucracy around how to register as disabled is not part of the law. | |
| Nov 13, 2018 at 21:07 | comment | added | Jeffrey J Weimer | @TRG The OP's opening statement says "WE assume ..." That assumption cannot stand as such for the instructor. Certainly the students are not privy to anything with regard to whether the student is or is not acting with a disability. There, we agree. | |
| Nov 13, 2018 at 18:43 | comment | added | JoshuaZ | @JeffreyJWeimer, In OP's situation, there are limits to what they can get from Disabilities Services (FERPA, ADA are relevant and their may be state laws). In my case, I did have documentation from the relevant office listing a a lot of accomodations. As to the idea that the proper approach for an instructor is to immediately contact the relevant office, if one didn't have docs already, then actively contacting them is often frowned upon. If one does have docs already (as I did), the fact is that not all disabilities services respond positively to contact. We don't live in an ideal word. | |
| Nov 13, 2018 at 17:04 | comment | added | TRiG | @JeffreyJWeimer In OP's situation, it's another student making that assumption. They are not privy to what Disability Services has to say. | |
| Nov 13, 2018 at 12:05 | comment | added | Strawberry | @Kimball Until a student comes forward, it's difficult to quantify the level of perceived disruption. | |
| Nov 12, 2018 at 22:02 | comment | added | JoshuaZ | @Kimball My situation wasn't as extreme as that in the OP. | |
| Nov 12, 2018 at 21:32 | comment | added | Kimball | I don't know your exact situation but there is no way I would allow one student to derail approximately 30% of the lecture for any reason. That clearly impacts every other student. | |
| Nov 12, 2018 at 21:13 | comment | added | JoshuaZ | @user76284 , There are a lot of concerns about instructors discriminating against students with disabilities or interfering with their accommodations (and some of those concerns are definitely valid), so going to talk to them without some sort of evidence that students actually had an issue would likely not have gone over well. This was partially a judgment call based on the school and the fact that I didn't have much job security at the position in question. At a previous positions, I had interacted a lot with the disabilities office people, and would have had less qualms bringing it up. | |
| Nov 12, 2018 at 20:27 | comment | added | user76284 | Just out of curiosity, is there a reason you couldn't pre-emptively talk with disability services before students came forth and commented about it? | |
| Nov 12, 2018 at 15:29 | history | answered | JoshuaZ | CC BY-SA 4.0 |