Timeline for How should I avoid being in the shadow of my PhD advisor after I have my own faculty position?
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| Nov 4, 2018 at 13:23 | comment | added | OBu | @JeffE It depends strongly on the personality of the people involved. I saw many senior scientits who made room for others and e.g. when beeing asked to hold an invited talk declined and pointed to "the really interesting person". But yes, this is not always the case, but if it's the case, it is the basis for a getrat cooperation and team work. I had those people for one field of my reasearch (but in other fields I had the opposite as well), and I pushed several PhD students of mine this way. | |
| Nov 3, 2018 at 14:26 | comment | added | Buffy | @JeffE, I agree with your first point. The same department is a complication to be sure. I disagree with your last point, however, There was an implication of "turning your back" on the professor implied in some of what is on this page. I think that should be avoided. | |
| Nov 3, 2018 at 14:23 | comment | added | JeffE | Your counterexamples miss one key feature: OP is in the same department as ther advisor. It’s easier to get credit for joint work with remote collaborators from your local peers. But I’ve seen tenure cases threatened over this issue, even when the candidate’s advisor was far away. Finally, working independently does not require “giving up a mentor”. Mentorship and collaboration are different. | |
| Nov 1, 2018 at 21:21 | comment | added | Buffy | @JeffE, you are welcome to downvote, of course, but I have counterexamples to your statements. Long term collaborations, though not at the same university. Giving up a mentor seems counterproductive to and advancing career. BTW, thanks for giving the reason for the vote, too few people here are courteous enough to do that. Cheers. | |
| Nov 1, 2018 at 21:17 | comment | added | JeffE | I'm afraid I have to downvote this. First, it's unlikely that OP could become an associate professor without an independent research reputation. More importantly, neither OP nor their advisor has much control over how people ascribe credit to their joint work. The advisor will always be more senior; OP will always be more junior, and first/corresponding-authorship won't change that. The only sure way to really get out from under your advisor's shadow is to develop a research record that does not involve your advisor at all. | |
| Nov 1, 2018 at 13:33 | history | answered | Buffy | CC BY-SA 4.0 |