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I just received a PhD invitation letter from a German University which mentions that my remuneration will be 2/3 of full TV-L 13 position. I do not know what a TV-L 13 position is (Google is of no help here), and didn't want to be rude, so I am asking here first. Is this a common position or specific to Germany? If anyone knows, currently how much remuneration corresponds to a TV-L position?

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It should be TVL, not TVEL, do you want me to edit the question? –  walkmanyi Jan 15 '13 at 13:09
    
@walkmanyi, I checked once again on offer letter and it mentions as TVEL. Universities generally have standard format for invitation letter so I will have to clarify weather it is same as TV-L. Thanks for pointing out though. –  alekhine Jan 15 '13 at 14:24
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I read the title in the list of questions, clicked eagerly… and am now somewhat disappointed by the content ;-) –  F'x Jan 15 '13 at 19:34
    
@walkmanyi, sorry for late edit. you were correct about TVL –  alekhine Feb 26 '13 at 17:50
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TV-L is the German public servant remuneration grade table (Tarifvertrag für den Öffentlichen Dienst der Länder (TV-L)). It is how civil servants Germany are graded for their salaries and similar conditions for their work.

Depending on where your position is, you'll be under TV-L West, or East, or Berlin, or Hessen. Something in your letter might specify this. Either way, there is information on the details here: http://oeffentlicher-dienst.info/tv-l/

Assuming you'd be in West Germany, tax as a single (i.e. not married or living with a life partner or children), this boils down to a basic salary of €2103/month with a net salary after all taxes and health insurance payments of €1383/month.

This will increase as you remain hired, you'll go up the staircase of salaries, going from 1 to 2 after 1 year, from 2 to 3 after an additional 2 years, et.c. Each step is a monthly salary increase of about €150/month net.

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Yes, I plugged in 66% in the box at that webpage. It is very common with less than full salaries in Germany -- my own position back when I did my PhD was a 1/2 position on TV-L (Ost) level 11. –  Mikael Vejdemo-Johansson Jan 15 '13 at 15:25
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Just curious, the pay is a fraction of a salary scale, but is the work week also that fraction of, say, 40 hours, or is it a full time position. –  Paul Hiemstra Feb 26 '13 at 18:18
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If you are paid a fraction of the full salary, your hours are supposed to be reduced correspondingly. However, since most graduate students don't normally work 40 hours per week at any rate, the actual number of hours to be worked is somewhat open to interpretation. The official number, however, is scaled. –  aeismail Feb 27 '13 at 4:42
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@PaulHiemstra: I was expected to work full time for my half salary. The argument was that I was being paid for my teaching, teaching prep, and the assistance I rendered my advisor; while my own thesis work was in my spare time but mandatory… or something like that. –  Mikael Vejdemo-Johansson Feb 27 '13 at 10:21
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@aeismail: Reduced hours? Good one. –  Mikael Vejdemo-Johansson Feb 27 '13 at 10:21
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Found this link after Googling for "Tarifvertrag für den Öffentlichen Dienst der Lände" (Thanks to Mike for explaining first )

Tarifvertrag für den öffentlichen Dienst der Länder (Collective agreement for the public sector in the countries)

According to this, 13 is the Pay Group for Ph.D Students and others. And the pay is from 3200 Euros upwards. (Basically it would be about 2000 Euros for 2/3 of that).

BTW, in one of the invitations, it says "E13". I'm not sure what this refers to but, I guess it's same as TV-L 13.

Hope this helps, and if you took this position, please explain further about TV-L 13.

Cheers....

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